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61. Not only NO, but HELL NO!

Thu Oct 8, 2015, 11:38 PM

Oct 2015

Only 35% of citizens own firearms. Of those 35%, most gun owners own several different guns. Some own hundreds and more. And don't forget the ammunition for them.
So all those weapons floating around are because of a small minority, not in any way a majority of anything. The actual fact is most people want a major clamp down on all the firearms flowing mostly unregulated in this country.

All firearms registered to their current owner.
All firearm sales with a 10 day or better waiting period. Needing a firearm right now usually results in a bad ending for someone.
All firearms sales go through a federally licensed gun dealer. (Including inheritance.)
No Internet sales of firearms.
No moving of any firearms across state lines without the proper permits. You want to take your weapon to another state, you must get permission from each state you go through. (Just closing a loop hole here.)
Insurance for all your firearms.

Is well past time to bring civilization to this country. Even the Old West was never this bad.

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Its time for Democrats to drop the gun control platform [View all] Dwayne Hicks Oct 2015 OP

. Rex Oct 2015 #1

I agree Rex. GGJohn Oct 2015 #6

Sounds good! Rex Oct 2015 #8

Extra butter? eom. GGJohn Oct 2015 #9

Movie theater butter! Rex Oct 2015 #13

Outstanding!!! eom. GGJohn Oct 2015 #15

Damn disapointing.................... oneshooter Oct 2015 #111

Popped some popcorn? Quackers Oct 2015 #104

Strangely enough...I also had some bubble wrap laying around. Rex Oct 2015 #105

Hey guys... Kang Colby Oct 2015 #14

Got an entire case in the fridge. Here crack open a cold one! Rex Oct 2015 #17

I'm on it. Kang Colby Oct 2015 #39

No problem, GGJohn Oct 2015 #18

My pad batts are running out, guess I'll miss the woowoo talk! Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #23

Drop in the charger. Kang Colby Oct 2015 #34

Think I am going to need something a lot stronger! Initech Oct 2015 #98

Pass the butter please! Initech Oct 2015 #97

I think my expression in this thread is more like Jons. Rex Oct 2015 #106

NRA and gun lovers are really feeling the pressure, is what this OP tells me...first Bengazhi falls, Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #2

Exactly right! The terrorist enabler gun lobby group NRA workinclasszero Oct 2015 #127

Your concern is noted. stone space Oct 2015 #3

No. NRaleighLiberal Oct 2015 #4

Except there were fewer mass shootings when the ban was in effect villager Oct 2015 #5

What trolling? Dwayne Hicks Oct 2015 #7

Your concern trolling, obviously villager Oct 2015 #11

Villager is in charge of things 'round here. Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #24

But everyone knows who really runs things kcr Oct 2015 #52

what stats, we don't need any stinking stats! Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #37

they may have to chose btwn guns and s.s.,medicare,the environment,war,poverty,no education saturnsring Oct 2015 #10

Oy. greatauntoftriplets Oct 2015 #12

Run on other issues, then once they have a majority, boom, pass some meaningful reform NightWatcher Oct 2015 #16

Yeah ... Straw Man Oct 2015 #63

" Freakin' peasants don't know what's good for 'em anyway, right?" demwing Oct 2015 #77

Then and now. Straw Man Oct 2015 #112

Many of the freakin' peasants don't know what's good, period. JackRiddler Oct 2015 #167

No. zappaman Oct 2015 #19

The art of the paragraph. trumad Oct 2015 #20

(!) (nt) enough Oct 2015 #38

I learned about the paragraph in elementary school. cpwm17 Oct 2015 #139

I think this is better than trotting out the same ban rhetoric... Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #21

Must be a republican troll rockfordfile Oct 2015 #22

Ok TeddyR Oct 2015 #26

Ok then Dwayne Hicks Oct 2015 #25

Which candidates would those be? Nevernose Oct 2015 #43

Can you say "assault weapon" ban? pablo_marmol Oct 2015 #68

If the dems want to win in sadoldgirl Oct 2015 #27

No doubt Bettie Oct 2015 #28

Everynone here wants to cut down on the mass shootings TeddyR Oct 2015 #29

I'd rather cut down on solo shootings. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #32

^^^This^^^!!! GGJohn Oct 2015 #41

LOL, you love that idea, so what is your solution...... Logical Oct 2015 #80

Gee, did I ever say I had a solution? GGJohn Oct 2015 #86

Either way, the gun people Bettie Oct 2015 #45

You're tired, huh? pablo_marmol Oct 2015 #69

Fine... Bettie Oct 2015 #79

"Happy now, Ben Carson?" pablo_marmol Oct 2015 #116

Kleck? Hemenway? maxsolomon Oct 2015 #99

David Bordua, James Wright, Peter Rossi [RIP] and Gary Kleck to name four. pablo_marmol Oct 2015 #117

Oh, I'm sure he "takes them apart". maxsolomon Oct 2015 #144

There's that cheap, unstudied dismissal that you Controllers love to trot out. pablo_marmol Oct 2015 #145

Exactly. Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #50

And kids accidentally killing one another. n/t OneGrassRoot Oct 2015 #84

Can we walk and chew gum at the same time? stone space Oct 2015 #87

I'm not sure we can walk or chew gum. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #88

Well Bettie Oct 2015 #47

No thanks. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #30

LOL Skittles Oct 2015 #31

No nt upaloopa Oct 2015 #33

So would you agree that the plan countingbluecars Oct 2015 #35

I agree Dwayne Hicks Oct 2015 #57

No fucking way mwrguy Oct 2015 #36

Pass. City Lights Oct 2015 #40

Me too ellie Oct 2015 #166

K&R...telling it like it is. Kang Colby Oct 2015 #42

You might as well just become a republican by your logic. BTW, you might feel more at home at... madinmaryland Oct 2015 #44

jury results restorefreedom Oct 2015 #110

I'd rather stand with a losing platform than win on a mound of dead bodies. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #46

Except that jack_krass Oct 2015 #75

So mass murder is acceptable and ethical concern for human life is not. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #108

No, definitely not jack_krass Oct 2015 #129

Says who? ColesCountyDem Oct 2015 #130

I do :) jack_krass Oct 2015 #133

We've tried passing no gun laws for years. We need a different idea. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #131

??? jack_krass Oct 2015 #136

We do not pass regulations because the NRA lobbys Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #141

^^^^^ THIS! ^^^^^ stone space Oct 2015 #123

How many people would vote for Democrats if they held a different stance on just this one issue? shawn703 Oct 2015 #48

Yes Dwayne Hicks Oct 2015 #109

No, thanks. MineralMan Oct 2015 #49

On, boy... branford Oct 2015 #51

No. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #53

Trade my values for votes? No thanks. nt TeamPooka Oct 2015 #54

I strongly disagree with your analysis and conclusions Gothmog Oct 2015 #55

But you'll tender no evidence to support you statements. Gotcha. NT pablo_marmol Oct 2015 #71

I wonder how many of our gunners would vote for a Republican over gunz. Hoyt Oct 2015 #56

That does seem to be what they believe a large number of Americans do, Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #78

That's my feeling too. Hoyt Oct 2015 #94

Many people are one issue voters, including a great many Democrats. branford Oct 2015 #95

Not worth the political capital LittleBlue Oct 2015 #58

No. brer cat Oct 2015 #59

No. Chan790 Oct 2015 #60

Not only NO, but HELL NO! -none Oct 2015 #61

Before you get all excited, ... Straw Man Oct 2015 #64

Bravo, sir.......BRAVO! pablo_marmol Oct 2015 #74

What I see above is just another post that says don't do anything about the slaughter because of -none Oct 2015 #92

Then you have profoundly misunderstood. Straw Man Oct 2015 #115

You can start here -none Oct 2015 #121

Nothing to see there. Straw Man Oct 2015 #122

No it doesn't. The first link takes you to a list debunking five of the NRA's talking points. -none Oct 2015 #124

Now it does. Last night it didn't. Straw Man Oct 2015 #125

I know they want to mislead people Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #126

Are you on crack? lancer78 Oct 2015 #62

What about it? Dwayne Hicks Oct 2015 #65

If you read it lancer78 Oct 2015 #66

That's not entirely clear, and certainly debatable. branford Oct 2015 #67

As branford as pointed out, "assault weapon" bans have been the centerpiece pablo_marmol Oct 2015 #72

it's very difficult, debating someone who believes NRA propaganda Skittles Oct 2015 #134

As it's very difficult debating someone who believes that certain guns pablo_marmol Oct 2015 #146

Bullshit. It's time for us to have a smarter gun control platform Recursion Oct 2015 #70

This is where I fall as well. aikoaiko Oct 2015 #90

I agree.......great post. pablo_marmol Oct 2015 #73

No. grntuscarora Oct 2015 #76

Well, once again, from the "no can do" caucus... CTyankee Oct 2015 #81

You have my vote, Dwayne. NaturalHigh Oct 2015 #82

Not a chance. (nt) Paladin Oct 2015 #83

politics should not be about supporting what you think is popular drray23 Oct 2015 #85

Let's now legalize murder, armed robbery, rape and assault IDemo Oct 2015 #89

+1000 Punkingal Oct 2015 #91

Do tell. Straw Man Oct 2015 #128

My guns! My guns! Don't insult my guns! hunter Oct 2015 #93

they're paranoid idiots Skittles Oct 2015 #135

Yep. Those who haven't experienced gun violence or can't imagine it as something bad... hunter Oct 2015 #138

No. It's too important. Our lives depend on it. Vinca Oct 2015 #96

I agree with the OP. GOLGO 13 Oct 2015 #100

I agree, will only cost us votes. nt Logical Oct 2015 #101

If they do drop it, they'll lose even more votes, Pathwalker Oct 2015 #102

Won't somebody please think of Turbineguy Oct 2015 #103

No doubt, the little mind favors political expedience over personal conviction LanternWaste Oct 2015 #107

Effective gun control is a fantasy while the 2nd amendment stands davidn3600 Oct 2015 #113

Just stop your idiotic conversation about gun control! It is about time that the US curb who gets akbacchus_BC Oct 2015 #114

An article written over ten years ago for The Nation...... pablo_marmol Oct 2015 #118

Thanks for posting this article, I read it twice. RiverLover Oct 2015 #120

sometimes you don't have something in a platform because it's a winner. Sometimes you do it because craigmatic Oct 2015 #119

NRA BS propaganda...gee nothing can be done workinclasszero Oct 2015 #132

No, it's not. But thank you for your concern. Iggo Oct 2015 #137

You're right, a universal ban would be far preferable. frustrated_lefty Oct 2015 #140

Fuck no. we can do it Oct 2015 #142

While the Repukes are weak it's a good time to kick ass on gun nuttery flamingdem Oct 2015 #143

I hope your guns get confiscated along with every other firearm on the planet. ThePhilosopher04 Oct 2015 #147

I don't agree; guns are an unavoidable issue mvd Oct 2015 #148

We still have an automatic weapons ban. We have for 80 years. Recursion Oct 2015 #149

Hi Recursion mvd Oct 2015 #153

I'm curious, why would you like it brought back? Recursion Oct 2015 #154

It was working well mvd Oct 2015 #157

I agree; I literally don't care about it either way. Recursion Oct 2015 #159

Well I think attitudes may be changing mvd Oct 2015 #162

How so? beevul Oct 2015 #163

I don't feel I need to explain mvd Oct 2015 #164

Shrug. Ok. beevul Oct 2015 #165

Guns have been required to have a"distinctive serial number" since 1934. oneshooter Oct 2015 #156

But do they keep track of them? Seems some sort of registration would be.. mvd Oct 2015 #158

Curently a national firearms registration is against Federal Law. oneshooter Oct 2015 #160

No. It's time for ALL Americans, including the 90% who want gun controls, LynnTheDem Oct 2015 #150

Poll: 92 percent of gun owners support universal background checks LynnTheDem Oct 2015 #151

Yea... deathrind Oct 2015 #152

Yeah.......no. Thanks for playing. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2015 #155

Drop Gun Control To Save Gun Control? lame54 Oct 2015 #161