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MADem

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2. Turkey Now A Theater of West-Russia Dispute Over Syria

Sat Oct 10, 2015, 04:04 AM

Oct 2015

http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense-news/2015/10/08/turkey-now-theater-west-russia-dispute-over-syria/73567034/

"That was a calculated Russian move," a NATO member state ambassador in Ankara said. "They want to challenge both Turkey and NATO. The message through Turkey is clear: We won't let you decide on Syria's future."

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Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu said Oct. 7 that Turkey did not want the conflict in Syria turning into a crisis between Russia and NATO nor between Russia and Turkey.

However, he said: "Let me put it bluntly: Turkey's rules of engagement are valid for Syria's, Russia's or another country's warplanes. The Turkish Armed Forces have been issued with open instructions."

Some diplomats think Turkey is bluffing and would avoid any conflict with Russia.

"The Turks have got to understand that the Russians are serious about Syria," a diplomat from a former eastern European country said. "The Russian move was a strong message to both Turkey and the western coalition trying to shape Syria's future without taking Russian interests into consideration."

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Turkey may have shot down a Russian jet [View all] Ex Lurker Oct 2015 OP

Putin will start a regional war to keep Russians from noticing what a horrible, applegrove Oct 2015 #1

Turkey Now A Theater of West-Russia Dispute Over Syria MADem Oct 2015 #2

The Russians have got to know DFW Oct 2015 #3

Yep--and Turkey has a MASSIVE standing Army. One of the world's largest. MADem Oct 2015 #4

Eastern Turkey's topography would make any invader think twice. DFW Oct 2015 #5

Most certainly--it's not welcoming terrain at all. MADem Oct 2015 #6

Gee, I wonder who blew up the Kurds today. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2015 #16

Could be. Let's not assume the "state" speaks with one voice, either. MADem Oct 2015 #18

Didn't the Turkish troops distinguish themselves during the Korean Conflict? /nt DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #24

Got me there. DFW Oct 2015 #25

At one time Iraq had one of the world's largest armies... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2015 #29

Yes, they did. Iran had a shitload of people under arms, too, during the Iran - Iraq War. MADem Oct 2015 #31

Good point. nt awoke_in_2003 Oct 2015 #32

No country that has the ability will alllow its borders to be penetrated. TexasProgresive Oct 2015 #7

Arming turkeys is going too damn far! Major Nikon Oct 2015 #8

Gobble believe it flamingdem Oct 2015 #9

As God is my witness, I thoght Turkey's a no fly zone. rug Oct 2015 #10

Win! n/t KatyMan Oct 2015 #11

I'd like my house to be a no-fly zone. Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #12

LOLOL GGJohn Oct 2015 #28

Those are Turkey ground forces pinboy3niner Oct 2015 #13

I knew there was a war on Thanksgiving. NuclearDem Oct 2015 #14

Oh, the humanity! pinboy3niner Oct 2015 #17

The turkeys are hitting the ground like hifiguy Oct 2015 #23

OMG that is fricken HILARIOUS. MADem Oct 2015 #19

Looks like it bratwurst for Thanksgiving. nt awoke_in_2003 Oct 2015 #30

All the British tabloids are running with this Twitter rumor. Maybe they should verify it? Comrade Grumpy Oct 2015 #15

Why change the habits of a lifetime? (nt) muriel_volestrangler Oct 2015 #21

+1. nt bemildred Oct 2015 #27

Since the Syrian AF also flies the Mig-29... Johnyawl Oct 2015 #20

Possibly tac-air intercepts including radar and voice HereSince1628 Oct 2015 #22

Good point... Johnyawl Oct 2015 #26