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In reply to the discussion: Its time for Democrats to drop the gun control platform [View all]-none
(1,884 posts)121. You can start here
This first one is not very long, so I won't quote from it.
5 Indefensible Tweets From The NRA Since The Oregon Gun Massacre
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/10/07/3709919/tweets-nra-oregon-shooting/
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/10/07/3709919/tweets-nra-oregon-shooting/
Gun Control and the Old West
https://www.ndsu.edu/pubweb/~rcollins/scholarship/guns.html
Pioneer publications show Old West leaders repeatedly arguing in favor of gun control. City leaders in the old cattle towns knew from experience what some Americans today don't want to believe: a town which allows easy access to guns invites trouble.
What these cow town leaders saw intimately in their day-to-day association with guns is that more guns in more places caused not greater safety, but greater death in an already dangerous wilderness. By the 1880s many in the west were fed up with gun violence. Gun control, they contended, was absolutely essential, and the remedy advocated usually was usually no less than a total ban on pistol-packing.
The editor of the Black Hills Daily Times of Dakota Territory in 1884, called the idea of carrying firearms into the city a dangerous practice, not only to others, but to the packer himself. He emphasized his point with the headline, "Perforated by His Own Pistol."
The editor of the Montanas Yellowstone Journal acknowledged four years earlier that Americans have "the right to bear arms," but he contended that guns have to be regulated. As for cowboys carrying pistols, a dispatch from Laramies Northwest Stock Journal in 1884, reported, "We see many cowboys fitting up for the spring and summer work. They all seem to think it absolutely necessary to have a revolver. Of all foolish notions this is the most absurd."
https://www.ndsu.edu/pubweb/~rcollins/scholarship/guns.html
Pioneer publications show Old West leaders repeatedly arguing in favor of gun control. City leaders in the old cattle towns knew from experience what some Americans today don't want to believe: a town which allows easy access to guns invites trouble.
What these cow town leaders saw intimately in their day-to-day association with guns is that more guns in more places caused not greater safety, but greater death in an already dangerous wilderness. By the 1880s many in the west were fed up with gun violence. Gun control, they contended, was absolutely essential, and the remedy advocated usually was usually no less than a total ban on pistol-packing.
The editor of the Black Hills Daily Times of Dakota Territory in 1884, called the idea of carrying firearms into the city a dangerous practice, not only to others, but to the packer himself. He emphasized his point with the headline, "Perforated by His Own Pistol."
The editor of the Montanas Yellowstone Journal acknowledged four years earlier that Americans have "the right to bear arms," but he contended that guns have to be regulated. As for cowboys carrying pistols, a dispatch from Laramies Northwest Stock Journal in 1884, reported, "We see many cowboys fitting up for the spring and summer work. They all seem to think it absolutely necessary to have a revolver. Of all foolish notions this is the most absurd."
And then there is this:
Guns in the wild west: regulated, with no fears about ripping the Constitution
http://fabiusmaximus.com/2013/01/24/guns-wild-west-48208/
Summary: An oddity of the New America is how we stumble when dealing with problems solved not just by our peers in other developed nations, but in our past. Gun control is but one example. Other nations, our peers in the developed world, have accomplished what were told is impossible for Americans: reducing gun ownership. In our past we were able to regulate guns without cries that we shredded the Constitution (the subject of todays post). In brief, we see ignorance and amnesia what conservative leaders consider ideal qualities for citizens.

http://fabiusmaximus.com/2013/01/24/guns-wild-west-48208/
Summary: An oddity of the New America is how we stumble when dealing with problems solved not just by our peers in other developed nations, but in our past. Gun control is but one example. Other nations, our peers in the developed world, have accomplished what were told is impossible for Americans: reducing gun ownership. In our past we were able to regulate guns without cries that we shredded the Constitution (the subject of todays post). In brief, we see ignorance and amnesia what conservative leaders consider ideal qualities for citizens.

My opinion are supported, btw.
Hard to trace? What does that have to do with keeping guns out of criminal hands? Could you explain how tracing a gun will help?
Simple, being able to trace a firearm back to its last know legal owner of record, helps find who the so-called "good guy" is that is selling to the bad guys. You know the straw purchasers?
Oh, you think straw buyers/sellers are bad guys? They think they are good guys, the 2nd Amendment being sacrosanct and absolute and all that.
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NRA and gun lovers are really feeling the pressure, is what this OP tells me...first Bengazhi falls,
Fred Sanders
Oct 2015
#2
they may have to chose btwn guns and s.s.,medicare,the environment,war,poverty,no education
saturnsring
Oct 2015
#10
Run on other issues, then once they have a majority, boom, pass some meaningful reform
NightWatcher
Oct 2015
#16
David Bordua, James Wright, Peter Rossi [RIP] and Gary Kleck to name four.
pablo_marmol
Oct 2015
#117
There's that cheap, unstudied dismissal that you Controllers love to trot out.
pablo_marmol
Oct 2015
#145
You might as well just become a republican by your logic. BTW, you might feel more at home at...
madinmaryland
Oct 2015
#44
I'd rather stand with a losing platform than win on a mound of dead bodies.
Agnosticsherbet
Oct 2015
#46
So mass murder is acceptable and ethical concern for human life is not.
Agnosticsherbet
Oct 2015
#108
How many people would vote for Democrats if they held a different stance on just this one issue?
shawn703
Oct 2015
#48
That does seem to be what they believe a large number of Americans do,
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Oct 2015
#78
What I see above is just another post that says don't do anything about the slaughter because of
-none
Oct 2015
#92
No it doesn't. The first link takes you to a list debunking five of the NRA's talking points.
-none
Oct 2015
#124
As branford as pointed out, "assault weapon" bans have been the centerpiece
pablo_marmol
Oct 2015
#72
Yep. Those who haven't experienced gun violence or can't imagine it as something bad...
hunter
Oct 2015
#138
No doubt, the little mind favors political expedience over personal conviction
LanternWaste
Oct 2015
#107
Just stop your idiotic conversation about gun control! It is about time that the US curb who gets
akbacchus_BC
Oct 2015
#114
sometimes you don't have something in a platform because it's a winner. Sometimes you do it because
craigmatic
Oct 2015
#119
I hope your guns get confiscated along with every other firearm on the planet.
ThePhilosopher04
Oct 2015
#147