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MADem

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18. Could be. Let's not assume the "state" speaks with one voice, either.
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 05:34 PM
Oct 2015

There is a great deal of tension between the Armed Forces and the civilian arm of the government (and that's just for starters). The civilians "won" a while back, and a lot of the old generals who liked the Attaturk ways were flung, against their will, into retirement to be replaced by more complacent seniors.

Then, there's the fundy-moderate tension on the civilian side of things.

It's not a united voice, "the state." Probably won't be for a while.

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The Russians have got to know DFW Oct 2015 #3
Yep--and Turkey has a MASSIVE standing Army. One of the world's largest. MADem Oct 2015 #4
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Most certainly--it's not welcoming terrain at all. MADem Oct 2015 #6
Gee, I wonder who blew up the Kurds today. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2015 #16
Could be. Let's not assume the "state" speaks with one voice, either. MADem Oct 2015 #18
Didn't the Turkish troops distinguish themselves during the Korean Conflict? /nt DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #24
Got me there. DFW Oct 2015 #25
At one time Iraq had one of the world's largest armies... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2015 #29
Yes, they did. Iran had a shitload of people under arms, too, during the Iran - Iraq War. MADem Oct 2015 #31
Good point. nt awoke_in_2003 Oct 2015 #32
No country that has the ability will alllow its borders to be penetrated. TexasProgresive Oct 2015 #7
Arming turkeys is going too damn far! Major Nikon Oct 2015 #8
Gobble believe it flamingdem Oct 2015 #9
As God is my witness, I thoght Turkey's a no fly zone. rug Oct 2015 #10
Win! n/t KatyMan Oct 2015 #11
I'd like my house to be a no-fly zone. Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #12
LOLOL GGJohn Oct 2015 #28
Those are Turkey ground forces pinboy3niner Oct 2015 #13
I knew there was a war on Thanksgiving. NuclearDem Oct 2015 #14
Oh, the humanity! pinboy3niner Oct 2015 #17
The turkeys are hitting the ground like hifiguy Oct 2015 #23
OMG that is fricken HILARIOUS. MADem Oct 2015 #19
Looks like it bratwurst for Thanksgiving. nt awoke_in_2003 Oct 2015 #30
All the British tabloids are running with this Twitter rumor. Maybe they should verify it? Comrade Grumpy Oct 2015 #15
Why change the habits of a lifetime? (nt) muriel_volestrangler Oct 2015 #21
+1. nt bemildred Oct 2015 #27
Since the Syrian AF also flies the Mig-29... Johnyawl Oct 2015 #20
Possibly tac-air intercepts including radar and voice HereSince1628 Oct 2015 #22
Good point... Johnyawl Oct 2015 #26
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