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LeftyMom

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71. By that point? A lot of spouses might surprise you. My stepdad shot himself.

Sat Oct 10, 2015, 07:28 PM

Oct 2015

If she had a time machine my mom would probably go back and give him some pills to save a cleanup job.

He was a miserable violent asshole who ruined every life he touched. Killing himself probably saved my mother's life, it certainly saved her and my younger sister a lot of trips to the ER. Blowing a hole in his demented brain was the only decent thing he ever did and he should have done it years earlier. Every now and then she gets in a wistful mood and remembers his happier moments (he was an untreated manic depressive, so these were usually when he was spending money they didn't have) but honestly that's really fucking rare and interspersed with months on end of being glad he's gone.

That's some real truth about living with the mentally ill and surviving suicide. Everybody who saw a documentary once can feel free to get their feelings hurt by that but I don't give a fuck.

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Gun Deaths Are Mostly Suicides [View all] SecularMotion Oct 2015 OP

Some years ago I read about people who survived Turbineguy Oct 2015 #1

More than 98% of the over 1,600 people who jump from the Golden Gate die on impact with the water Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #10

Yes, but what a terrible waste! Turbineguy Oct 2015 #12

Probably a similar, if not "more successful" way to kill yourself than a gun. EDIT: significantly MillennialDem Oct 2015 #66

My point is that once people take this course Turbineguy Oct 2015 #77

I knew a man who had tried to commit suicide by gun, blew off part of his face uppityperson Oct 2015 #72

I had a high school teacher Turbineguy Oct 2015 #76

Most of the mass shooting end up being suicides too. I'm not pro-mass shooting but I'm ok with craigmatic Oct 2015 #2

I would like to suggest you take another look at that. Bohunk68 Oct 2015 #3

No, he is referring to the fact that a firearm is used in 2/3rd's of deaths by gun in this country. Waldorf Oct 2015 #34

No I mean that mass shooters end up killing themselves well some do. craigmatic Oct 2015 #68

How many police shootings are "suicide by cop"? 1939 Oct 2015 #5

You're comment made me think of this. Quackers Oct 2015 #14

+1 DashOneBravo Oct 2015 #42

No disrespect to the police officers I am sure they meant well but airplaneman Oct 2015 #65

It's a difficult situation for the guards jack_krass Oct 2015 #81

Wow, these bodycam vids really jack_krass Oct 2015 #82

Non-gun suicides are easier to classify as Other. postulater Oct 2015 #4

Maybe not. hunter Oct 2015 #63

I don't really feel this is an indictment of gun ownership. Chemisse Oct 2015 #6

I'm sure their surviving parents and spouses aren't so blas� about "choice" mainer Oct 2015 #8

Well said. yardwork Oct 2015 #27

Amen.... daleanime Oct 2015 #55

Suicide takes away the door to happiness. Chemisse Oct 2015 #70

By that point? A lot of spouses might surprise you. My stepdad shot himself. LeftyMom Oct 2015 #71

That is real truth about living with an abusive individual loyalsister Oct 2015 #74

It is totally an indictment of gun availability. yardwork Oct 2015 #26

Exactly loyalsister Oct 2015 #75

My daughter discovered earlier this year brer cat Oct 2015 #50

Of course not Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #53

Unfortunately, she DOES have a choice. Chemisse Oct 2015 #69

We need a national anti-suicide campaign. Nt hack89 Oct 2015 #7

And don't have a gun lying around the house should be part of it. NT BeyondGeography Oct 2015 #11

That has to be handled very carefully hack89 Oct 2015 #52

Especially when such loud elements of our society...... daleanime Oct 2015 #57

Suicide by gun is still a firearm death. -none Oct 2015 #9

Everyone I know of agrees it is a death Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #16

Anything other than a total ban is an NRA talking point. ileus Oct 2015 #19

I know Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #21

I agree. SecularMotion Oct 2015 #20

Wrong again SecMo, GGJohn Oct 2015 #22

All he can do is post insults Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #25

Well, at least he finally commented on one of his threads. GGJohn Oct 2015 #29

true, I am still in shock Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #32

Nice insult Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #24

Take the chip off your shoulder. That's no insult. SecularMotion Oct 2015 #31

How about better access to mental health treatment for everyone? GGJohn Oct 2015 #36

a good start Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #39

I think anyone looking for mental health treatment Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #38

Yes, anyone who is suicidal should receive urgent mental health care. SecularMotion Oct 2015 #47

Anyone with suicidal tendencies should have 911 called on them, GGJohn Oct 2015 #48

Read the OP SecularMotion Oct 2015 #51

I did read the thread, GGJohn Oct 2015 #58

so others should not call 911 Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #49

It is indeed a death by firearm but I really think with how political things are they should Waldorf Oct 2015 #37

Look at major newspapers... Americans don't much care about suicide and self-harm HereSince1628 Oct 2015 #13

Obituarys are paid for by family members Travis_0004 Oct 2015 #40

Yes, but the point is pretty unchanged--society largely doesn't notice suicides HereSince1628 Oct 2015 #44

You never know how a gun in the home is going to be used. milestogo Oct 2015 #15

Guns do not fire accidentally Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #17

If a curious child gets ahold of a gun and it goes off milestogo Oct 2015 #60

True, but the gun did not go off accidentally Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #61

Guns don't fire accidently, GGJohn Oct 2015 #23

So there is no such thing as a gun accident. milestogo Oct 2015 #67

No, there's firearm negligence, GGJohn Oct 2015 #73

It's not for you to judge that alleged risk for anyone else. branford Oct 2015 #54

So you admit it's not the "guns" finally. ileus Oct 2015 #18

Sorry to hear that my friend Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #28

I'm sorry for your loss. It is about the guns. yardwork Oct 2015 #30

My mother drank herself to death, my friend took the easy exit. ileus Oct 2015 #33

I've known 5 suicides. HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #35

so what laws on firearm availability Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #41

I'd like to see a complete change in our culture's approach to violence. yardwork Oct 2015 #43

And take the money from the WOD and invest it into the mental health system. GGJohn Oct 2015 #46

Too much money to be made in private prisons and defense industry. yardwork Oct 2015 #59

Suicides are horrible DashOneBravo Oct 2015 #45

Guns don't cause suicide. branford Oct 2015 #56

Isn't this an NRA sarisataka Oct 2015 #62

The manner of suicide is a personal choice. edgineered Oct 2015 #64

Two gun suicides I know. JonathanRackham Oct 2015 #78

Guns do not make suicidal people safer. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #79

Those who want to off themselves are going do it if they want to with a gun or without YabaDabaNoDinoNo Oct 2015 #80

SNL did a skit last night on guns in the US. Very thought provoking. B Calm Oct 2015 #83