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loyalsister

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74. That is real truth about living with an abusive individual

Sat Oct 10, 2015, 08:14 PM

Oct 2015

but it is not even close to being universally representative of people who have mental illnesses.

When I was growing up, in a class of 200 people, 3 shot themselves within months of each other. I only went to one of the funerals and the physical sadness that emanated from his family was painful for anyone who has a heart. I will never forget that and it is still very clear to me that suicide leaves a long tragic trail. The easier it is, the more people who are affected. Suicide, homicide, and accidental shootings are all tragic.

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Gun Deaths Are Mostly Suicides [View all] SecularMotion Oct 2015 OP

Some years ago I read about people who survived Turbineguy Oct 2015 #1

More than 98% of the over 1,600 people who jump from the Golden Gate die on impact with the water Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #10

Yes, but what a terrible waste! Turbineguy Oct 2015 #12

Probably a similar, if not "more successful" way to kill yourself than a gun. EDIT: significantly MillennialDem Oct 2015 #66

My point is that once people take this course Turbineguy Oct 2015 #77

I knew a man who had tried to commit suicide by gun, blew off part of his face uppityperson Oct 2015 #72

I had a high school teacher Turbineguy Oct 2015 #76

Most of the mass shooting end up being suicides too. I'm not pro-mass shooting but I'm ok with craigmatic Oct 2015 #2

I would like to suggest you take another look at that. Bohunk68 Oct 2015 #3

No, he is referring to the fact that a firearm is used in 2/3rd's of deaths by gun in this country. Waldorf Oct 2015 #34

No I mean that mass shooters end up killing themselves well some do. craigmatic Oct 2015 #68

How many police shootings are "suicide by cop"? 1939 Oct 2015 #5

You're comment made me think of this. Quackers Oct 2015 #14

+1 DashOneBravo Oct 2015 #42

No disrespect to the police officers I am sure they meant well but airplaneman Oct 2015 #65

It's a difficult situation for the guards jack_krass Oct 2015 #81

Wow, these bodycam vids really jack_krass Oct 2015 #82

Non-gun suicides are easier to classify as Other. postulater Oct 2015 #4

Maybe not. hunter Oct 2015 #63

I don't really feel this is an indictment of gun ownership. Chemisse Oct 2015 #6

I'm sure their surviving parents and spouses aren't so blas� about "choice" mainer Oct 2015 #8

Well said. yardwork Oct 2015 #27

Amen.... daleanime Oct 2015 #55

Suicide takes away the door to happiness. Chemisse Oct 2015 #70

By that point? A lot of spouses might surprise you. My stepdad shot himself. LeftyMom Oct 2015 #71

That is real truth about living with an abusive individual loyalsister Oct 2015 #74

It is totally an indictment of gun availability. yardwork Oct 2015 #26

Exactly loyalsister Oct 2015 #75

My daughter discovered earlier this year brer cat Oct 2015 #50

Of course not Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #53

Unfortunately, she DOES have a choice. Chemisse Oct 2015 #69

We need a national anti-suicide campaign. Nt hack89 Oct 2015 #7

And don't have a gun lying around the house should be part of it. NT BeyondGeography Oct 2015 #11

That has to be handled very carefully hack89 Oct 2015 #52

Especially when such loud elements of our society...... daleanime Oct 2015 #57

Suicide by gun is still a firearm death. -none Oct 2015 #9

Everyone I know of agrees it is a death Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #16

Anything other than a total ban is an NRA talking point. ileus Oct 2015 #19

I know Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #21

I agree. SecularMotion Oct 2015 #20

Wrong again SecMo, GGJohn Oct 2015 #22

All he can do is post insults Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #25

Well, at least he finally commented on one of his threads. GGJohn Oct 2015 #29

true, I am still in shock Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #32

Nice insult Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #24

Take the chip off your shoulder. That's no insult. SecularMotion Oct 2015 #31

How about better access to mental health treatment for everyone? GGJohn Oct 2015 #36

a good start Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #39

I think anyone looking for mental health treatment Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #38

Yes, anyone who is suicidal should receive urgent mental health care. SecularMotion Oct 2015 #47

Anyone with suicidal tendencies should have 911 called on them, GGJohn Oct 2015 #48

Read the OP SecularMotion Oct 2015 #51

I did read the thread, GGJohn Oct 2015 #58

so others should not call 911 Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #49

It is indeed a death by firearm but I really think with how political things are they should Waldorf Oct 2015 #37

Look at major newspapers... Americans don't much care about suicide and self-harm HereSince1628 Oct 2015 #13

Obituarys are paid for by family members Travis_0004 Oct 2015 #40

Yes, but the point is pretty unchanged--society largely doesn't notice suicides HereSince1628 Oct 2015 #44

You never know how a gun in the home is going to be used. milestogo Oct 2015 #15

Guns do not fire accidentally Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #17

If a curious child gets ahold of a gun and it goes off milestogo Oct 2015 #60

True, but the gun did not go off accidentally Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #61

Guns don't fire accidently, GGJohn Oct 2015 #23

So there is no such thing as a gun accident. milestogo Oct 2015 #67

No, there's firearm negligence, GGJohn Oct 2015 #73

It's not for you to judge that alleged risk for anyone else. branford Oct 2015 #54

So you admit it's not the "guns" finally. ileus Oct 2015 #18

Sorry to hear that my friend Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #28

I'm sorry for your loss. It is about the guns. yardwork Oct 2015 #30

My mother drank herself to death, my friend took the easy exit. ileus Oct 2015 #33

I've known 5 suicides. HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #35

so what laws on firearm availability Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #41

I'd like to see a complete change in our culture's approach to violence. yardwork Oct 2015 #43

And take the money from the WOD and invest it into the mental health system. GGJohn Oct 2015 #46

Too much money to be made in private prisons and defense industry. yardwork Oct 2015 #59

Suicides are horrible DashOneBravo Oct 2015 #45

Guns don't cause suicide. branford Oct 2015 #56

Isn't this an NRA sarisataka Oct 2015 #62

The manner of suicide is a personal choice. edgineered Oct 2015 #64

Two gun suicides I know. JonathanRackham Oct 2015 #78

Guns do not make suicidal people safer. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #79

Those who want to off themselves are going do it if they want to with a gun or without YabaDabaNoDinoNo Oct 2015 #80

SNL did a skit last night on guns in the US. Very thought provoking. B Calm Oct 2015 #83