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freshwest

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35. The problem I see in the Pacific northwest is that they are just as vocal in real life.
Thu May 24, 2012, 07:41 PM
May 2012

It really is a religion to them, they won't listen to anything. They are undermining our progressive governments and are as rude and aggressive as the most hidebound Republican. They won't take no for an answer with their evangelical zeal.

If you make reasoned arguments as to why their solutions, which hearken back in some cases to before the Revolution, definitely before the Civil War or the progressive era, they have a list of names for you: Statist, socialist, communist, big government, union, sheeple, nanny stater, etc. When they open up it's like talking to Alex Jones.

They refuse to accept that a government is required to make a level playing field and when you dis-empower democratic governments, you invite corporations to rule everything for lack of regulation. Which means you're under the thumb of the robber barons. They demonize public health care, public schools and anyone who disagrees with them on pro-life. Libertarianism is the road to corporatism and fascism. When the dust is settled, the people live under the rule of the rich and churches in every aspect of their lives, they are not free.

There is more than one kind of authoritarian rule, such as religions and corporations but they blame government solely for that social condition. Their fall back is survival-ism and the nuclear family or clan, and if you aren't in theirs, they can do anything to you for their own.

I could rant farther but after years of arguing with them after being open to listening to their alleged anti-war talk, I found they have no objection to the greatest war of all, the war within this country to impoverish others and enslave many. That's where their free market leads. We've had that in this country, it was called the Gilded Age and the masses of people were so desperate they wanted communism.

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Like Johnson/Goldwater ? n/t PoliticAverse May 2012 #1
I'm thinking it would be a Politicalboi May 2012 #2
Why? kentuck May 2012 #3
Go Paul Go! Politicalboi May 2012 #4
He won't nadinbrzezinski May 2012 #24
Independent Overlap Possibility ingotnews May 2012 #5
Will not happen Spike89 May 2012 #6
Probably not, but... ingotnews May 2012 #10
It is quite possible Romney will not be the "final" candidate against Obama. n/t Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #7
Ron Paul supporters are like the village children who followed the pied piper. FarPoint May 2012 #8
I wouldn't worry about it much kctim May 2012 #9
I consider myself a Liberal and I don't think most liberals act that way. lookingfortruth May 2012 #11
Of course you don't kctim May 2012 #36
yes, much like centrists are the know-it-all assholes of the democratic party frylock May 2012 #32
Aw shucks kctim May 2012 #37
mix in a few more right wing slogans.. frylock May 2012 #42
not one bit. they will hurt romney, not the President. spanone May 2012 #12
He's no Ralph Nader. GoneOffShore May 2012 #13
I think they'll make some noise at the convention NoPasaran May 2012 #14
I don't think this is about getting Ron Paul the presidential nod. Bolo Boffin May 2012 #15
Yes abelenkpe May 2012 #16
Thank you all for letting me voice this concern. I am sure I am reading too much into this lookingfortruth May 2012 #17
I don't think Obama would have trouble at all running against Ron Paul. cyberswede May 2012 #20
I agree it's a problem for Obama, since a huge circus will distract voters from progressive issues. freshwest May 2012 #23
Libertarian vs. Authoritarian ingotnews May 2012 #25
Paul would be used to mop up the droppings of his followers. bluerum May 2012 #27
No, you're confused. Your third post for Ron Paul. Fuck Ron Paul. freshwest May 2012 #29
Fuck Ron Paul. nt TBF May 2012 #18
Our strategy does change .... we DANCE in the streets!!!!! JoePhilly May 2012 #19
+1 JNelson6563 May 2012 #41
I'm scared to park next to them NightWatcher May 2012 #21
Back in '08 I definitely was. Now, however...... AverageJoe90 May 2012 #22
I am worried bluerum May 2012 #26
Ron's delegates will be lucky to get into a free speech zone at least mile from the convention. CK_John May 2012 #28
This is the very rare Concern Two-fer cthulu2016 May 2012 #30
There really aren't that many RP supporters in this country sadbear May 2012 #31
This is bad.....how? ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2012 #33
Strangely enough, I saw someone with a Ron Paul bumpersticker on the freeway a few days ago Jamaal510 May 2012 #34
The problem I see in the Pacific northwest is that they are just as vocal in real life. freshwest May 2012 #35
Fuck Ron Paul. Iggo May 2012 #38
No. WilliamPitt May 2012 #39
I think that there are going to be some major fireworks at the 'Pug convention this year. MadHound May 2012 #40
On the list of worries, it ranks up there with the danger of blizzards in the Sahara. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2012 #43
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