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60. And the U.S. has jack shit to do with MH17

Reply to Octafish (Reply #16)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:03 PM

Oct 2015

Yet only one incident seems to bring out the ire of St. Julian

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Snowden Has A Simple Solution To Get To The Bottom Of The US Afghan Bombing ''War Crime'' [View all] Octafish Oct 2015 OP

Uh....what? jeff47 Oct 2015 #1

Uh...the plane circled overhead for an hour. Octafish Oct 2015 #2

And the US admitted to doing that. So what use is the video? jeff47 Oct 2015 #3

It's the difference between hearing you tell me about it and seeing it with my own eyes. Octafish Oct 2015 #4

So, it's needed as a PR stunt. (nt) jeff47 Oct 2015 #5

That's one way of looking at it. I'd say it would prove or disprove a war crime. Octafish Oct 2015 #7

It's called transparency. Dont call me Shirley Oct 2015 #62

No, it's the illusion of transparency. Because while you're gawking at the footage jeff47 Oct 2015 #63

In the military orders come from the top down. Dont call me Shirley Oct 2015 #64

Right.we keep repeating the mantra to ourselves. 7wo7rees Oct 2015 #6

That movie sounds like an interesting project. Octafish Oct 2015 #8

And That Makes The US A Terrorist State For Committing A War Crime cantbeserious Oct 2015 #26

You mean a stupidly obvious and simplistic solution? Sure... Blue_Tires Oct 2015 #9

That makes sense, in a way. But I prefer to see for myself. Octafish Oct 2015 #10

Wikileaks is too biased against the U.S., so it's not like they would be an impartial party Blue_Tires Oct 2015 #11

WikiLeaks has nothing to do with bias as it published official US documents. Octafish Oct 2015 #14

The Sony e-mails were "official" US documents? Blue_Tires Oct 2015 #15

Obviously, right? Russia has zero to do with USA strafing the MSF hospital in Kunduz. Octafish Oct 2015 #16

And the U.S. has jack shit to do with MH17 Blue_Tires Oct 2015 #60

+1,000 malaise Oct 2015 #38

The U.S. has changed its story four times @ the MSF hospital bombing riderinthestorm Oct 2015 #12

Someone wanted to send a message. Octafish Oct 2015 #13

This was a war crime. There needs to be justice riderinthestorm Oct 2015 #23

kicked and recommended! CanSocDem Oct 2015 #17

Not even Congress can see the tapes -- it's like the cops and an 'ongoing investigation' Octafish Oct 2015 #18

My Lai would have been hidden forever if not for military whistle blower Ichingcarpenter Oct 2015 #19

Someone isn't being held to account. Octafish Oct 2015 #20

yep! nailed it again Octafish.... wildbilln864 Oct 2015 #21

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #25

My Lai probably would never happen had JFK lived. Octafish Oct 2015 #39

So now you don't believe in 5th amendment? nt msanthrope Oct 2015 #22

Must we protect the national security state, no matter the cost? Octafish Oct 2015 #24

It's called due process.... evidence isn't general released into the public domain msanthrope Oct 2015 #32

Congress is often involved, especially when investigations are ongoing riderinthestorm Oct 2015 #33

Fabulous....can you name me an Oversight Committee you think should msanthrope Oct 2015 #34

A special investigatory sub committee of the Armed Services Committee nt riderinthestorm Oct 2015 #37

Headed by a Republican. nt msanthrope Oct 2015 #40

So you'd prefer this war crime isn't investigated? riderinthestorm Oct 2015 #43

You have no idea if this is a war crime. And, as a criminal msanthrope Oct 2015 #46

That's what the tapes would show. Octafish Oct 2015 #49

Q: Since when is Congress considered secondary to the military? Octafish Oct 2015 #35

Since when is the 5th amendment secondary to Snowden's msanthrope Oct 2015 #41

That doesn't matter, though. Were this a democracy, Congress would demand accountability. Octafish Oct 2015 #42

How about the Russian bombing of Syria Edward, tell us how you feel about that while you are at it still_one Oct 2015 #27

Good question. I think Snowden is against terrorism. Octafish Oct 2015 #28

No question about it, the Carlyle Group has and has had some questionable dealings. still_one Oct 2015 #29

The attack(s) lasted an hour. Octafish Oct 2015 #30

Kunduz was (and is) a war zone cheapdate Oct 2015 #31

MSF phoned US and Afghan authorities, attack continued 30 minutes... Octafish Oct 2015 #36

I don't doubt that they meant to hit the building. cheapdate Oct 2015 #44

This was a MSF hospital! Their coordinates were known! riderinthestorm Oct 2015 #45

So, what's your theory? cheapdate Oct 2015 #47

That's what the tapes would show. Octafish Oct 2015 #48

It was the alternative, speculative theory cheapdate Oct 2015 #51

Thanks. I didn't think you were blaming the victim. Octafish Oct 2015 #53

K/R marmar Oct 2015 #50

Orwellian in the worst of ways. Octafish Oct 2015 #54

When Mr. Snowden turns over the tapes of what he said and is saying to the Russians and Chinese he kelliekat44 Oct 2015 #52

Anything to add about attacking the MSF hospital? Octafish Oct 2015 #55

It's war, shit happens. How many hospitals did we blow up in WW2? B Calm Oct 2015 #56

Like Jebthro said, 14 years of war and ''shit happens.'' Octafish Oct 2015 #57

Listen, there isn't anyone here more against this god damn war than I. We need to bring our troops B Calm Oct 2015 #58

Re: the last sentence of post 57-so do I, and many of US respect Ed Snowden for what he did. K&R n/t bobthedrummer Oct 2015 #61

K&R&bookmark JEB Oct 2015 #59