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44. That study is little more than a statistical sleight of hand

Thu Oct 15, 2015, 02:42 PM

Oct 2015

All these comparisons made to lower the scientific consensus percentage are meaningless. You can’t compare papers that state no position on global warming with those that do. It’s nonsensical as the papers that don’t state a position often are researching an entirely different question/subject in climatology. It's merely a trick used to keep the percentage of "skeptics" low.

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"100% Democrat" scientist comes out publicly against Obama on climate change [View all] StrongBad Oct 2015 OP

First off, it is not 100% Democrat, it is 100% DemocratIC Scientist...second off randys1 Oct 2015 #1

It's a quote from the article from the scientist himself StrongBad Oct 2015 #2

No, I am correcting ANYONE who would use that terminology, including him. randys1 Oct 2015 #5

Sorry, but he's right on that point... brooklynite Oct 2015 #33

Democrat is a noun ibegurpard Oct 2015 #51

...and that's how he used it... brooklynite Oct 2015 #69

You are correct. Rex Oct 2015 #93

Obama is in the Democratic Party. He is a Democrat, 100%. demwing Oct 2015 #136

So finding one scientist who disagrees with Obama's policy is worthy of a story? Blue_Tires Oct 2015 #3

FYI, the consensus on global warming isn't the 97% figure often cited. It's much more complicated StrongBad Oct 2015 #6

NO, it isnt. Why are you on a board of science believing adults? randys1 Oct 2015 #9

I believe in science, just not manipulating statistics StrongBad Oct 2015 #10

As someone who attempts to understand things from a scientific perspective, truedelphi Oct 2015 #19

That's a fair and respectable opinion. StrongBad Oct 2015 #20

A WSJ editorial? Really edhopper Oct 2015 #66

Egad man! It's citing a scientific study! That's what i'm referring to! StrongBad Oct 2015 #70

No edhopper Oct 2015 #94

Sigh. I usually don't engage pedants but here's a link to the legit scientific journal StrongBad Oct 2015 #102

Bwahaha! An article by Christopher Monckton of Brenchley???? muriel_volestrangler Oct 2015 #148

A homophobic, climate change denier as a source, edhopper Oct 2015 #149

Ad hominem argument. No relevance to actual article. StrongBad Oct 2015 #150

Actual article is only available with money, so we have to judge is by the authors muriel_volestrangler Oct 2015 #153

Now? Rex Oct 2015 #154

The Black president simply cant be right, you understand! randys1 Oct 2015 #7

No, it's trending on Facebook so has legs and we should be aware. StrongBad Oct 2015 #8

Link it from Facebook, please. nt ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2015 #13

It's in the "trending section" that is in the top right of your news feed. StrongBad Oct 2015 #14

Many irrational mind believe that if something is trending, then that something is valid. LanternWaste Oct 2015 #15

I agree, which is why we need to really think about pushing the 97% scientific consensus on warming StrongBad Oct 2015 #16

No, it's not there. And there will be a link to a page with trending results. That's the link I ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2015 #31

Here you go: StrongBad Oct 2015 #34

Wow!!! Look at all those reich-wingers pushing that story! Why are you propagating... ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2015 #41

Because it's a scientific argument that originated from a non-biased source (a tech publication) StrongBad Oct 2015 #45

It's one rightwinger agains the entire global scientific community! What, they're going to take one ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2015 #47

Please read the rest of the thread. Consensus is nowhere near 97% StrongBad Oct 2015 #50

Because the guy who gets his paycheck from Exxon says it's nowhere near 97%. (nt) jeff47 Oct 2015 #52

Please stick to the studies in question. I'm open to refutation but haven't found any. StrongBad Oct 2015 #55

"Please stick to not talking about the guy who gets paid by Exxon jeff47 Oct 2015 #65

No, that 97% isn't from polling it's from a flawed analysis of climatology papers StrongBad Oct 2015 #91

MIRT should keep their eyes on you. nt ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2015 #53

Big brother is watching? StrongBad Oct 2015 #56

Account's way too old for MIRT. Only Admin can do anything to him. (nt) jeff47 Oct 2015 #63

The Register has a long history of climate change denial and lying muriel_volestrangler Oct 2015 #151

Poor ol' Dyson has lost the knack for "observing" things accurately right here on Earth, hasn't he? villager Oct 2015 #4

Dr. Dyson is a climatologist? hatrack Oct 2015 #11

FYI, the real climatolgist consensus around human made warming is about 1% StrongBad Oct 2015 #12

FYI, you're lying and citing a rightwing publication doesn't change the fact you're lying geek tragedy Oct 2015 #21

Doesn't change the validity of his study. StrongBad Oct 2015 #22

Did you do an academic search to verify no one has refuted his work? geek tragedy Oct 2015 #25

Did you read what you posted? StrongBad Oct 2015 #26

You are lying again. Please stop lying. geek tragedy Oct 2015 #30

See my other post - "implicit" merely means thinking warming will continue indefinitely StrongBad Oct 2015 #37

No, that's a lie on your part. A complete fabrication you pulled out of your ass. geek tragedy Oct 2015 #42

More manipulation of statistics StrongBad Oct 2015 #43

I admire you ability to deal with them, I refuse to acknowledge them other than what they randys1 Oct 2015 #104

Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #106

Dictator? Dont we indict people for murder? randys1 Oct 2015 #107

Because man made global warming and its potential negative effects is not a 100% settled issue. StrongBad Oct 2015 #109

The trash bin of woo just called and it wants its IT quack back! Rex Oct 2015 #127

Realizing the only motivation for denial is either profit or whining randys1 Oct 2015 #133

I agree it must cause a level of self-loathing no progressive or liberal can ever experience. Rex Oct 2015 #137

Again, he's a physicist, not an IT guy StrongBad Oct 2015 #138

The OP was desperate to smear Obama and found a way. Rex Oct 2015 #58

Read the thread. Still no refutation. You're welcome to try as I go where the data tells me. StrongBad Oct 2015 #62

NASA vs. some IT guy...you are living in denial and lost before you started. Rex Oct 2015 #64

Correction. 35% max of climate scientists say humans for sure influence warming. StrongBad Oct 2015 #67

I handed you a link that showed you are wrong and now you are doubling down Rex Oct 2015 #72

I saw your link. If you read the thread you would recognize I addressed the same stat and refuted it StrongBad Oct 2015 #74

Why? You are wrong and the scientific community agrees with me. Rex Oct 2015 #75

No they don't StrongBad Oct 2015 #77

Yes they do. Rex Oct 2015 #79

Not an argument. Thanks for playing. StrongBad Oct 2015 #81

NP I won and you lost. Rex Oct 2015 #84

Spock would be ashamed of your rampant emotionalism. StrongBad Oct 2015 #87

Cry me a river. Rex Oct 2015 #89

What is it like to argue with someone who is working for the death of all living things? randys1 Oct 2015 #105

It is weird seeing a climate change denier here on DU and in full bloom. Rex Oct 2015 #110

It was a twofer for him, he got to attack Obama at the same time. randys1 Oct 2015 #112

Yeah I called it, just a sad attempt at smearing Obama Rex Oct 2015 #115

if you went where the data goes you wouldn't be here. eom scrabblequeen40 Oct 2015 #100

An IT guy thinks he's an expert on climate change? yardwork Oct 2015 #17

Fine, let's truly analyze the climatologist opinion. StrongBad Oct 2015 #18

you are spamming a lie from the WSJ, you are outing yourself as an anti-science troll. geek tragedy Oct 2015 #23

I don't doubt that those organizations believe warming is human made at all. StrongBad Oct 2015 #24

Again, you are lying. Lying, lying, lying, lying, geek tragedy Oct 2015 #28

Thanks again for the assist! StrongBad Oct 2015 #29

No, you're just lying your ass off about what I quoted. geek tragedy Oct 2015 #32

If you actually read the literature StrongBad Oct 2015 #36

So now you're tripling down on the lying. geek tragedy Oct 2015 #38

That study is little more than a statistical sleight of hand StrongBad Oct 2015 #44

Jury results pintobean Oct 2015 #40

"Hello, IT. Did you try turning the climate off and back on again?" Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2015 #35

LOVE that show! LOVE that line! and guess what, it WORKS randys1 Oct 2015 #108

It actually has worked on more than one occasion for me. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2015 #113

I am a fan of the lead actor....as well as the creator,Graham randys1 Oct 2015 #116

His delivery of lines is perfect. Loved him on Bridesmaids. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2015 #118

watch randys1 Oct 2015 #119

Funny stuff. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2015 #123

HULU only , season one, I am waiting for season 2 randys1 Oct 2015 #130

I've also wondered whether climate change will be a net positive LittleBlue Oct 2015 #27

Unfortunately you forget unintended/unknown consequences. yellowcanine Oct 2015 #39

Uh, no. jeff47 Oct 2015 #48

Look at this proportional map LittleBlue Oct 2015 #156

And if we were only talking about desertification around the equator, that would be relevant. jeff47 Oct 2015 #160

Don't forget ocean acidification Red Mountain Oct 2015 #147

�_� blogslut Oct 2015 #46

Syria, and their climate-change-induced civil war say "Hi". jeff47 Oct 2015 #49

He won't be the first physicist wrong on climate change Bradical79 Oct 2015 #54

Scientists are almost in 100% agreement that man has helped caused climate change. Rex Oct 2015 #57

Please read the rest of the thread. Consensus is nowhere near 97% StrongBad Oct 2015 #59

You can make up whatever number you want to, however you are not entitled to make up your own facts. Rex Oct 2015 #60

Great argument. Full of links, studies and logic. StrongBad Oct 2015 #61

I just proved you are lying and wrong and you flee...good idea. Rex Oct 2015 #68

Dude did you read any part of this thread other than the op? StrongBad Oct 2015 #71

Dude. I did and everyone in this thread told you are wrong and proved it. Rex Oct 2015 #73

For someone with a Spock avatar, you sure do love appealing to authority. StrongBad Oct 2015 #76

Sure you are, keep pretending. Rex Oct 2015 #78

Not an argument. Thanks for playing. StrongBad Oct 2015 #80

NP. I played and won and you lost. Rex Oct 2015 #82

Protip: Proclaiming you "won" is a sure sign you didn't and revealing of a childish nature StrongBad Oct 2015 #85

You a pro? Rex Oct 2015 #88

This guy was on Faux, he questions evolution also... joeybee12 Oct 2015 #83

Plus he is an IT expert, his degree is not in climatology. Rex Oct 2015 #86

He's actually a physicist StrongBad Oct 2015 #96

You linked to a newspaper sweetie...nt joeybee12 Oct 2015 #159

No, Freeman Dyson doesn't question evolution. nt bananas Oct 2015 #158

I am so sure... tenderfoot Oct 2015 #90

Remember when the tobacco companies purchased Doctors to explain guillaumeb Oct 2015 #92

Also murderers. This isnt complicated folks, if we were willing to call denial what it is. randys1 Oct 2015 #111

Agreed. eom guillaumeb Oct 2015 #114

He's Not Disputing Anything Factual ProfessorGAC Oct 2015 #95

who cares...one guy. spanone Oct 2015 #97

The OP is 'concerned' about this one guy over the other thousands that say he is wrong! Rex Oct 2015 #98

Zzzzzzzzzzzzz spanone Oct 2015 #99

Yep. Rex Oct 2015 #101

Sorry, only 25%-35% are settled in their thinking that it's man made. StrongBad Oct 2015 #117

The study has nothing to do with climate change. Wow. You are really desperate now. Rex Oct 2015 #120

It's regarding the supposed 97% consensus, which is what we were talking about StrongBad Oct 2015 #121

Here again, try a link that is truthful. Rex Oct 2015 #122

Yes, and I refuted this in another post in this thread StrongBad Oct 2015 #125

Translation: I don't like facts so I pretend it is manipulation of statistics. Rex Oct 2015 #128

Nope, here is the scientific article with the real facts that you haven't refuted StrongBad Oct 2015 #131

Again you post nothing but a link about another discipline. Rex Oct 2015 #132

Keep moving those goalposts! StrongBad Oct 2015 #134

From the guy that had to bring up Spock. Rex Oct 2015 #139

Not an argument. StrongBad Oct 2015 #140

True, you never had one. Rex Oct 2015 #141

Also not an argument. Deflecting from the fact you can't refute my study shown. StrongBad Oct 2015 #143

Burp? Rex Oct 2015 #144

i am sure the by suppertime the goons on facebook will say he won the nobel prize dembotoz Oct 2015 #103

Just in case anyone here feels like the OP might be truthful, check out this site. Rex Oct 2015 #124

Nope, here's the reality of this claim StrongBad Oct 2015 #126

Your scientific woo has been noted. Rex Oct 2015 #129

Woo from a legit scientific journal? StrongBad Oct 2015 #135

And yours have nothing to do with the fact that almost all scientist agree on climate change. Rex Oct 2015 #142

Can you read? StrongBad Oct 2015 #145

Your IT guy knows nothing about climate change so yes...run away... Rex Oct 2015 #146

This thread is just one more brick in the wall of proof that DU has jumped the shark. Squinch Oct 2015 #152

The reporter is a stupid ass Warpy Oct 2015 #155

I hear those supposedly democrats calling into CSpan every morning. Fucking right-wingers B Calm Oct 2015 #157

Jury Results Gore1FL Oct 2015 #161

Clear and unambiguous edhopper Oct 2015 #162