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StrongBad

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76. For someone with a Spock avatar, you sure do love appealing to authority.

Thu Oct 15, 2015, 03:26 PM

Oct 2015

Again, nobody has refuted the deconstruction of the 97% number effectively.

The only one that attempted was easily debunked as statistical manipulation.

Please show me where the 97% deconstruction was debunked.

For the record, I'm undecided concerning the danger of climate change. This whole argument is solely focused on whether the real number of consensus is 97%.

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"100% Democrat" scientist comes out publicly against Obama on climate change [View all] StrongBad Oct 2015 OP

First off, it is not 100% Democrat, it is 100% DemocratIC Scientist...second off randys1 Oct 2015 #1

It's a quote from the article from the scientist himself StrongBad Oct 2015 #2

No, I am correcting ANYONE who would use that terminology, including him. randys1 Oct 2015 #5

Sorry, but he's right on that point... brooklynite Oct 2015 #33

Democrat is a noun ibegurpard Oct 2015 #51

...and that's how he used it... brooklynite Oct 2015 #69

You are correct. Rex Oct 2015 #93

Obama is in the Democratic Party. He is a Democrat, 100%. demwing Oct 2015 #136

So finding one scientist who disagrees with Obama's policy is worthy of a story? Blue_Tires Oct 2015 #3

FYI, the consensus on global warming isn't the 97% figure often cited. It's much more complicated StrongBad Oct 2015 #6

NO, it isnt. Why are you on a board of science believing adults? randys1 Oct 2015 #9

I believe in science, just not manipulating statistics StrongBad Oct 2015 #10

As someone who attempts to understand things from a scientific perspective, truedelphi Oct 2015 #19

That's a fair and respectable opinion. StrongBad Oct 2015 #20

A WSJ editorial? Really edhopper Oct 2015 #66

Egad man! It's citing a scientific study! That's what i'm referring to! StrongBad Oct 2015 #70

No edhopper Oct 2015 #94

Sigh. I usually don't engage pedants but here's a link to the legit scientific journal StrongBad Oct 2015 #102

Bwahaha! An article by Christopher Monckton of Brenchley???? muriel_volestrangler Oct 2015 #148

A homophobic, climate change denier as a source, edhopper Oct 2015 #149

Ad hominem argument. No relevance to actual article. StrongBad Oct 2015 #150

Actual article is only available with money, so we have to judge is by the authors muriel_volestrangler Oct 2015 #153

Now? Rex Oct 2015 #154

The Black president simply cant be right, you understand! randys1 Oct 2015 #7

No, it's trending on Facebook so has legs and we should be aware. StrongBad Oct 2015 #8

Link it from Facebook, please. nt ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2015 #13

It's in the "trending section" that is in the top right of your news feed. StrongBad Oct 2015 #14

Many irrational mind believe that if something is trending, then that something is valid. LanternWaste Oct 2015 #15

I agree, which is why we need to really think about pushing the 97% scientific consensus on warming StrongBad Oct 2015 #16

No, it's not there. And there will be a link to a page with trending results. That's the link I ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2015 #31

Here you go: StrongBad Oct 2015 #34

Wow!!! Look at all those reich-wingers pushing that story! Why are you propagating... ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2015 #41

Because it's a scientific argument that originated from a non-biased source (a tech publication) StrongBad Oct 2015 #45

It's one rightwinger agains the entire global scientific community! What, they're going to take one ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2015 #47

Please read the rest of the thread. Consensus is nowhere near 97% StrongBad Oct 2015 #50

Because the guy who gets his paycheck from Exxon says it's nowhere near 97%. (nt) jeff47 Oct 2015 #52

Please stick to the studies in question. I'm open to refutation but haven't found any. StrongBad Oct 2015 #55

"Please stick to not talking about the guy who gets paid by Exxon jeff47 Oct 2015 #65

No, that 97% isn't from polling it's from a flawed analysis of climatology papers StrongBad Oct 2015 #91

MIRT should keep their eyes on you. nt ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2015 #53

Big brother is watching? StrongBad Oct 2015 #56

Account's way too old for MIRT. Only Admin can do anything to him. (nt) jeff47 Oct 2015 #63

The Register has a long history of climate change denial and lying muriel_volestrangler Oct 2015 #151

Poor ol' Dyson has lost the knack for "observing" things accurately right here on Earth, hasn't he? villager Oct 2015 #4

Dr. Dyson is a climatologist? hatrack Oct 2015 #11

FYI, the real climatolgist consensus around human made warming is about 1% StrongBad Oct 2015 #12

FYI, you're lying and citing a rightwing publication doesn't change the fact you're lying geek tragedy Oct 2015 #21

Doesn't change the validity of his study. StrongBad Oct 2015 #22

Did you do an academic search to verify no one has refuted his work? geek tragedy Oct 2015 #25

Did you read what you posted? StrongBad Oct 2015 #26

You are lying again. Please stop lying. geek tragedy Oct 2015 #30

See my other post - "implicit" merely means thinking warming will continue indefinitely StrongBad Oct 2015 #37

No, that's a lie on your part. A complete fabrication you pulled out of your ass. geek tragedy Oct 2015 #42

More manipulation of statistics StrongBad Oct 2015 #43

I admire you ability to deal with them, I refuse to acknowledge them other than what they randys1 Oct 2015 #104

Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #106

Dictator? Dont we indict people for murder? randys1 Oct 2015 #107

Because man made global warming and its potential negative effects is not a 100% settled issue. StrongBad Oct 2015 #109

The trash bin of woo just called and it wants its IT quack back! Rex Oct 2015 #127

Realizing the only motivation for denial is either profit or whining randys1 Oct 2015 #133

I agree it must cause a level of self-loathing no progressive or liberal can ever experience. Rex Oct 2015 #137

Again, he's a physicist, not an IT guy StrongBad Oct 2015 #138

The OP was desperate to smear Obama and found a way. Rex Oct 2015 #58

Read the thread. Still no refutation. You're welcome to try as I go where the data tells me. StrongBad Oct 2015 #62

NASA vs. some IT guy...you are living in denial and lost before you started. Rex Oct 2015 #64

Correction. 35% max of climate scientists say humans for sure influence warming. StrongBad Oct 2015 #67

I handed you a link that showed you are wrong and now you are doubling down Rex Oct 2015 #72

I saw your link. If you read the thread you would recognize I addressed the same stat and refuted it StrongBad Oct 2015 #74

Why? You are wrong and the scientific community agrees with me. Rex Oct 2015 #75

No they don't StrongBad Oct 2015 #77

Yes they do. Rex Oct 2015 #79

Not an argument. Thanks for playing. StrongBad Oct 2015 #81

NP I won and you lost. Rex Oct 2015 #84

Spock would be ashamed of your rampant emotionalism. StrongBad Oct 2015 #87

Cry me a river. Rex Oct 2015 #89

What is it like to argue with someone who is working for the death of all living things? randys1 Oct 2015 #105

It is weird seeing a climate change denier here on DU and in full bloom. Rex Oct 2015 #110

It was a twofer for him, he got to attack Obama at the same time. randys1 Oct 2015 #112

Yeah I called it, just a sad attempt at smearing Obama Rex Oct 2015 #115

if you went where the data goes you wouldn't be here. eom scrabblequeen40 Oct 2015 #100

An IT guy thinks he's an expert on climate change? yardwork Oct 2015 #17

Fine, let's truly analyze the climatologist opinion. StrongBad Oct 2015 #18

you are spamming a lie from the WSJ, you are outing yourself as an anti-science troll. geek tragedy Oct 2015 #23

I don't doubt that those organizations believe warming is human made at all. StrongBad Oct 2015 #24

Again, you are lying. Lying, lying, lying, lying, geek tragedy Oct 2015 #28

Thanks again for the assist! StrongBad Oct 2015 #29

No, you're just lying your ass off about what I quoted. geek tragedy Oct 2015 #32

If you actually read the literature StrongBad Oct 2015 #36

So now you're tripling down on the lying. geek tragedy Oct 2015 #38

That study is little more than a statistical sleight of hand StrongBad Oct 2015 #44

Jury results pintobean Oct 2015 #40

"Hello, IT. Did you try turning the climate off and back on again?" Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2015 #35

LOVE that show! LOVE that line! and guess what, it WORKS randys1 Oct 2015 #108

It actually has worked on more than one occasion for me. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2015 #113

I am a fan of the lead actor....as well as the creator,Graham randys1 Oct 2015 #116

His delivery of lines is perfect. Loved him on Bridesmaids. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2015 #118

watch randys1 Oct 2015 #119

Funny stuff. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2015 #123

HULU only , season one, I am waiting for season 2 randys1 Oct 2015 #130

I've also wondered whether climate change will be a net positive LittleBlue Oct 2015 #27

Unfortunately you forget unintended/unknown consequences. yellowcanine Oct 2015 #39

Uh, no. jeff47 Oct 2015 #48

Look at this proportional map LittleBlue Oct 2015 #156

And if we were only talking about desertification around the equator, that would be relevant. jeff47 Oct 2015 #160

Don't forget ocean acidification Red Mountain Oct 2015 #147

�_� blogslut Oct 2015 #46

Syria, and their climate-change-induced civil war say "Hi". jeff47 Oct 2015 #49

He won't be the first physicist wrong on climate change Bradical79 Oct 2015 #54

Scientists are almost in 100% agreement that man has helped caused climate change. Rex Oct 2015 #57

Please read the rest of the thread. Consensus is nowhere near 97% StrongBad Oct 2015 #59

You can make up whatever number you want to, however you are not entitled to make up your own facts. Rex Oct 2015 #60

Great argument. Full of links, studies and logic. StrongBad Oct 2015 #61

I just proved you are lying and wrong and you flee...good idea. Rex Oct 2015 #68

Dude did you read any part of this thread other than the op? StrongBad Oct 2015 #71

Dude. I did and everyone in this thread told you are wrong and proved it. Rex Oct 2015 #73

For someone with a Spock avatar, you sure do love appealing to authority. StrongBad Oct 2015 #76

Sure you are, keep pretending. Rex Oct 2015 #78

Not an argument. Thanks for playing. StrongBad Oct 2015 #80

NP. I played and won and you lost. Rex Oct 2015 #82

Protip: Proclaiming you "won" is a sure sign you didn't and revealing of a childish nature StrongBad Oct 2015 #85

You a pro? Rex Oct 2015 #88

This guy was on Faux, he questions evolution also... joeybee12 Oct 2015 #83

Plus he is an IT expert, his degree is not in climatology. Rex Oct 2015 #86

He's actually a physicist StrongBad Oct 2015 #96

You linked to a newspaper sweetie...nt joeybee12 Oct 2015 #159

No, Freeman Dyson doesn't question evolution. nt bananas Oct 2015 #158

I am so sure... tenderfoot Oct 2015 #90

Remember when the tobacco companies purchased Doctors to explain guillaumeb Oct 2015 #92

Also murderers. This isnt complicated folks, if we were willing to call denial what it is. randys1 Oct 2015 #111

Agreed. eom guillaumeb Oct 2015 #114

He's Not Disputing Anything Factual ProfessorGAC Oct 2015 #95

who cares...one guy. spanone Oct 2015 #97

The OP is 'concerned' about this one guy over the other thousands that say he is wrong! Rex Oct 2015 #98

Zzzzzzzzzzzzz spanone Oct 2015 #99

Yep. Rex Oct 2015 #101

Sorry, only 25%-35% are settled in their thinking that it's man made. StrongBad Oct 2015 #117

The study has nothing to do with climate change. Wow. You are really desperate now. Rex Oct 2015 #120

It's regarding the supposed 97% consensus, which is what we were talking about StrongBad Oct 2015 #121

Here again, try a link that is truthful. Rex Oct 2015 #122

Yes, and I refuted this in another post in this thread StrongBad Oct 2015 #125

Translation: I don't like facts so I pretend it is manipulation of statistics. Rex Oct 2015 #128

Nope, here is the scientific article with the real facts that you haven't refuted StrongBad Oct 2015 #131

Again you post nothing but a link about another discipline. Rex Oct 2015 #132

Keep moving those goalposts! StrongBad Oct 2015 #134

From the guy that had to bring up Spock. Rex Oct 2015 #139

Not an argument. StrongBad Oct 2015 #140

True, you never had one. Rex Oct 2015 #141

Also not an argument. Deflecting from the fact you can't refute my study shown. StrongBad Oct 2015 #143

Burp? Rex Oct 2015 #144

i am sure the by suppertime the goons on facebook will say he won the nobel prize dembotoz Oct 2015 #103

Just in case anyone here feels like the OP might be truthful, check out this site. Rex Oct 2015 #124

Nope, here's the reality of this claim StrongBad Oct 2015 #126

Your scientific woo has been noted. Rex Oct 2015 #129

Woo from a legit scientific journal? StrongBad Oct 2015 #135

And yours have nothing to do with the fact that almost all scientist agree on climate change. Rex Oct 2015 #142

Can you read? StrongBad Oct 2015 #145

Your IT guy knows nothing about climate change so yes...run away... Rex Oct 2015 #146

This thread is just one more brick in the wall of proof that DU has jumped the shark. Squinch Oct 2015 #152

The reporter is a stupid ass Warpy Oct 2015 #155

I hear those supposedly democrats calling into CSpan every morning. Fucking right-wingers B Calm Oct 2015 #157

Jury Results Gore1FL Oct 2015 #161

Clear and unambiguous edhopper Oct 2015 #162