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cascadiance

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27. Alan, thanks for doing this!! And another "compromise" you could perhaps help us with...
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 03:13 PM
Oct 2015

There are many of us who've lost all of our savings now before we are able to collect social security, and because segments of our economy like the tech sector which is beset by outsourcing through free trade bills as well as "guest labor" programs like H-1B have been having to go in and out of states of being unemployed between short term contracts (the new way of keeping us "disposable" if later they can get the H-1B Visa quota expanded to let them replace us with cheaper labor). For now we're doing a lot of "placeholder" work, and dipping in to our IRA and 401k plans to make ends meet, which will also impact our ability to live under social security later too.

The 10% penalties on IRAs are a situation that most don't think about until we are faced with them after we've already taken them out for the previous year. And the exceptions to let one write down that 10% penalty are so complicated and weird that most of us don't really find ways to accomplish them. Most of us in the situation of unemployment periods would like to take advantage of writing down what we pay in health insurance (COBRA, etc.) in between jobs when we are unemployed that tax law permits. BUT, it is specific in the language that in order to qualify for taking advantage of that tax write-off for lowering or removing that 10% penalty "poor tax", we need to be unemployed at least 12 CONSECUTIVE weeks. Note that isn't "cumulative" 12 weeks that many of us have when we're unemployed multiple times during the year with these short term work bouts and trying to be conscientious of getting reemployed again when ending a job. I discovered too late last year when I was unemployed cumulatively over 4 months, but not consecutively over 2 months.

And these short term jobs often don't have 401k plans either. And if you have an older 401k plan that was administered by a company that you worked at when you were under 55 years old, but now you are over 55 years old, you can't take a withdrawal out of that 401k without getting hit by a 10% penalty either. And if you are just dealing with contract jobs with no 401k, you aren't able to roll your old 401k over to a newer one that would later allow you to withdraw from it without the 10% penalty.

We're being screwed, and these laws need reform to help us pay less taxes, and to not encourage us to stay unemployed for three months or longer consecutively. I would think that Republican congress people would also like to:
1) change laws to take away incentives for people to collect unemployment for 3 months or longer to avoid tax burdens. I'm sure they would like less money being spent on unemployment payouts.
2) change laws to help people save money on taxes (aka the 10% penalties in both examples I cite above).

Now if they don't like to save people money on taxes because they only want to reduce taxes on the wealthy, and such changes wouldn't help that goal, then CALL THEM OUT ON THAT, and show the hypocrisy they have of "wanting less taxes" without qualifying it for the hidden clause "for the rich". I know you'd be good at this, and cornering them to do something that they could champion working together with you to lower people's taxes and reduce government spending on unemployment, and in the process helps so many of us that are being screwed right before we enter our retirement years, with the reduced COLA on social security also about to screw us too!

I tried to get my congress woman to work on this earlier this year, but I think she was too busy voting for TPA (UGGH!!!) earlier this year to do much work in this area.

Thanks for listening to us on DU... I like it when I believe people like you and Bernie Sanders pay attention to what we say here. I still think he might have borrowed an idea I posted a few times earlier on putting in place a war surtax on the top marginal income tax rates to raise revenue on those who should pay it and serve as an incentive to have the rich want to fund wars (and the military industrial complex) less, that might affect how campaign donations are done to politicians and what they want them to do.

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Thank you Rep. Alan Grayson. SamKnause Oct 2015 #1
Yes! N/t MoonRiver Oct 2015 #3
Thanks!!! n/t RKP5637 Oct 2015 #2
And of course ... the predictable outcry until next November ... lpbk2713 Oct 2015 #4
It would be nice if the President would fight for this cause like he did for the TPP. Scuba Oct 2015 #28
"no inflation", yet Medicare Part B premiums are scheduled t rise by 52% for 30% of beneficiaries Faryn Balyncd Oct 2015 #5
Soo, if there is no inflation and the elderly don't need COLA then why do healthcare insurance fasttense Oct 2015 #9
I would assume that those Part B costs will be reflected in jwirr Oct 2015 #11
Thank you edhopper Oct 2015 #6
A lot of seniors are abortion voters and don't realize that the party that claims it wants to save JDPriestly Oct 2015 #13
The only way you can not vote for that party is to not vote. MindPilot Oct 2015 #18
Many, if not most Dems edhopper Oct 2015 #19
The PTB won't let Bernie anywhere near the presidency, no matter how many votes he gets. MindPilot Oct 2015 #21
Maybe, maybe not edhopper Oct 2015 #23
Let's see now.........no COLA bkkyosemite Oct 2015 #7
Couldn't have said this Worried senior Oct 2015 #22
You can use our Act Blue Grayson for Senate link to donate Omaha Steve Oct 2015 #8
Since I retired, I drive less than 50 miles a month. Binkie The Clown Oct 2015 #10
Gas prices are about the only thing that has gone down and I suspect that's temporary. Vinca Oct 2015 #20
It says it all about the Democratic party that every single Democrat in CharlotteVale Oct 2015 #12
2 issues which are the coal mine canaries for what Party viability remains: Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #25
Thanks for all you do Alan Bubzer Oct 2015 #14
"We got some bad news today" < Actually got it in the last elections. Just didn't realize it.n/t jtuck004 Oct 2015 #15
Would it not be nice............................. turbinetree Oct 2015 #16
Time for seniors to "storm the Bastille" I think. Cleita Oct 2015 #17
Been sending shots off in the night (with checks) to preserve SS. Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #26
Does this also affect SS Disability and those on Ilsa Oct 2015 #24
Alan, thanks for doing this!! And another "compromise" you could perhaps help us with... cascadiance Oct 2015 #27
Shame on the BLS Number9Dream Oct 2015 #29
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