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La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts) Thu Oct 15, 2015, 03:43 PM Oct 2015

Gun Suicides Plummet in State After New Licensing Law, Skyrocket After Law Repealed in Other State [View all]

More stringent gun laws can save lives, while less stringent ones can lead to more deaths. That is the implication of a new study by researchers at Johns Hopkins, who found that gun suicides plummeted after a law in Connecticut requiring background checks for handgun purchases was passed. Gun suicides in Missouri, meanwhile, spiked after a similar law was repealed there.

“Contrary to popular belief, suicidal thoughts are often transient, which is why delaying access to a firearm during a period of crisis could prevent suicide,” said study author Daniel Webster, director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research, in a press release announcing the study’s findings on Tuesday. “Just as research indicates that handgun purchaser licensing laws are effective in reducing firearm homicides, they could reduce suicides by firearms as well.”

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/09/01/new_study_shows_how_gun_suicides_plummeted_in_connecticut_after_stricter.html

But let's just keep focusing on the one old lady who shot a burglar in the foot

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Gun Suicides Plummet in State After New Licensing Law, Skyrocket After Law Repealed in Other State [View all] La Lioness Priyanka Oct 2015 OP

This is common sense, but nice to see it in writing. randys1 Oct 2015 #1

it's always nice when data demonstrates what we have always been arguing for La Lioness Priyanka Oct 2015 #2

That article fails to mention it has nothing to do with the recent law CT passed for assault weapons iamthe99 Oct 2015 #8

the article was talking about the 1995 data and not the current assault weapons law La Lioness Priyanka Oct 2015 #13

That law is over 25 years old iamthe99 Oct 2015 #3

yes, and? La Lioness Priyanka Oct 2015 #4

Read the article they are trying to use the recent 2013 assault weapons ban passed in CT iamthe99 Oct 2015 #10

no, they are not. here is the relevant paragraph of what the authors of the study did La Lioness Priyanka Oct 2015 #12

Sorry I'm an idiot iamthe99 Oct 2015 #16

Was that all suicides rates or gun? Mojorabbit Oct 2015 #59

Dishonest framing. Suicide is the highest it's been since 1991 and is rising rapidly. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2015 #5

So you support gun-assisted suicide... Human101948 Oct 2015 #41

Of course I do. I should have that right, and so should everyone. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2015 #42

Most people who jump off bridges have a moment as they plummet down regretting their decision... Human101948 Oct 2015 #43

And? Decoy of Fenris Oct 2015 #44

You believe that Jews are somehow different than people in this country? Human101948 Oct 2015 #46

Of course they are. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2015 #47

Okay, so how are they different that this doesn't apply? Human101948 Oct 2015 #53

Expect the denialists to insist there is *no connection...* villager Oct 2015 #6

You forgot the "5, 4, 3, 2, 1..." Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #11

I take it you're not the sort that regards it as a good thing when suicides choose another method... friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #35

"All Suicides Matter." Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #56

Not to certain posters here... friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #60

But you remembered! villager Oct 2015 #45

Reminds me of Cape Canaveral. Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #57

Are gun suicides more dead where you live? friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #32

Did the overall suicide rate change? MosheFeingold Oct 2015 #7

Yes; Suicides increased and are at the highest rate in over 25 years. n/t Decoy of Fenris Oct 2015 #9

Some states lower than national average: GA, TX, LA (food's too good to die young!) Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #14

True, and the state medical examiner confirms it: friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #33

The magazine article did get one thing wrong though. NutmegYankee Oct 2015 #37

Which magazine article? Decoy of Fenris Oct 2015 #39

The article in post #5 NutmegYankee Oct 2015 #40

The middle aged lady shot the burglar in both legs, not the foot. pintobean Oct 2015 #15

In CT a private gun owner could sell a handgun to someone iamthe99 Oct 2015 #17

No permit required to own, only to buy. nt NutmegYankee Oct 2015 #19

now it is iamthe99 Oct 2015 #20

Nothing changed on handguns after Sandy Hook. NutmegYankee Oct 2015 #21

I think you might be wrong on this iamthe99 Oct 2015 #22

Here. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2015 #23

There are two types of permits. NutmegYankee Oct 2015 #25

Yup, but I think you're posting at the wrong fella. I just give links for education purposes. :) n/t Decoy of Fenris Oct 2015 #26

I just wanted to provide clarity for anyone else reading. NutmegYankee Oct 2015 #27

Well it's not that they're draconian. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2015 #28

I can understand the issue with the cost. NutmegYankee Oct 2015 #29

See, there's something we can agree on. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2015 #31

I live in Connecticut and own guns. NutmegYankee Oct 2015 #24

The worst part about CT permits Kang Colby Oct 2015 #34

But did suicides plummet? whatthehey Oct 2015 #18

The number of suicides increased per the state medical examiner: friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #30

So - negative lives saved by draconian gun control laws yet again? whatthehey Oct 2015 #49

More people overall killed themselves, just not with guns. This is a good thing? n/t Decoy of Fenris Oct 2015 #36

no, given the direction that CT suicide rates were going they sharply declined La Lioness Priyanka Oct 2015 #51

Only suicides by gun decreased- overall, suicides by all methods increased friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #52

at a lower rate than the projected rate. had these laws not been implemented the rate of suicide in La Lioness Priyanka Oct 2015 #55

Try another excuse- no "projected rate" was mentioned in the article. friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #61

Its even worse than that Travis_0004 Oct 2015 #38

I find it shocking that anyone would buy into this easily refutable "study" Kang Colby Oct 2015 #48

Suicide is the real open and shut case to me Recursion Oct 2015 #50

How could this be so, given that suicide by other means more than 'took up the slack'? friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #62

I see the gun apologists are out in force. alarimer Oct 2015 #54

Of course they are. The same personality matrix that clings to guns also demands the smothering... villager Oct 2015 #58