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Ghost in the Machine

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18. I can certainly, and politely, agree to disagree with you on the registration issue. The way *I* see
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 11:42 AM
Oct 2015

it is, like you said, the Government could access the NRA Database for members names, and guns purchased through a gun shop are already registered to you due to the paperwork in your name, along with the background check. In my State, A CCP holder must also register with the Sheriff's Department *which* weapon they are going to be carrying concealed.

Ok, I got a little off on a tangent, but registration lets the Government know exactly WHO has WHAT, and in the event that they ever DO try to confiscate, the registered ones will be the first people they come after. They can't take what they don't know you have, can they?? Of course, I am also the one who always says that "the logistics of going house to house searching for guns is just too unrealistic, even if they got the military involved. I live in a small town, on 15 acres of land, and there are a LOT of farms and homes with acreage here. by the time the first or 2nd house was searched, the news would be all over the County. People would be burying their guns somewhere on their property. Is the Government *really* going to spend the time combing ever inch of ever piece of land with metal detectors looking for guns??"

MY guns can stay quietly locked away in my safe until I am dead and gone, then my kids can keep them, sell them or turn them into flower vases. I wouldn't be here to know anyways.

Thanks for the polite, civil conversation. I welcome them from different viewpoints all the time.

Peace to you and yours,

Ghost

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We'll get a lot more traction with *those* proposals than we will Recursion Oct 2015 #1
I just wanna know why the people are so lethal JackInGreen Oct 2015 #2
And the grabbers want to leave PEOPLE defenseless, not guns. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #3
As illustrated by all those "defenseless" people in every other civilized nation on earth. gcomeau Oct 2015 #22
And Mexico and Japan and Korea and Taiwan? Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #30
Cluelessness, or deliberate obtuseness? gcomeau Oct 2015 #33
"go play somewhere else and don't waste our time" Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #35
Your entire point... gcomeau Oct 2015 #37
The point is, some places have no guns but still violence and suicide issues. Some places have Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #41
Suicide, some. For *highly* cultural reasons. gcomeau Oct 2015 #42
"Cultural" is still "not gun related." Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #54
How the fuck do you think... gcomeau Oct 2015 #58
If all you want to do is act like a barking jerk then go do it someplace else safe in the knowledge Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #61
Aww, someone not like having all their bullshit arguments shot down? -eom gcomeau Oct 2015 #62
Your arguments are obviously carrying the day. Just look how many people are disarmed. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #64
"Defenseless," Do you really feel that way without a gun or two strapped to your body? Hoyt Oct 2015 #28
You and your can of beans should start a one-man gun confiscation campaign. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #31
Better than strapping a gun to my body and living in fear of other citizens. Hoyt Oct 2015 #32
You do live in fear, Hoyt. You're obviously terrified. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #36
Nope, i'm tired of seeing Democrats act like George Zimmerman and NRA types. Hoyt Oct 2015 #38
You're scared of 80 million people who will never harm an innocent. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #40
Oh, I think we know why you live in fear of armed citizens. eom. GGJohn Oct 2015 #44
I intentionally conflate fear and concern too LanternWaste Oct 2015 #63
Do you even know why I made the comment to Hoyt? eom. GGJohn Oct 2015 #65
Then why...... mgardener Oct 2015 #4
If People kill people don't give people guns. stonecutter357 Oct 2015 #5
Well said malaise Oct 2015 #6
Really..it's like when you don't hear of any plane crashes for awhile. "Any day now.." BlueJazz Oct 2015 #9
It just breaks my heart to see those guns abused and accused so unjustly struggle4progress Oct 2015 #7
Truth. joshcryer Oct 2015 #8
Then *WHY* is it always "GUNZ, GUNZ, GUNZ!!!11!!" instead of "CRIMINALS, CRIMINALS, CRIMINALS"?? Ghost in the Machine Oct 2015 #10
Because, Ghost, we already have laws against crimes by people. Nitram Oct 2015 #11
Yes, so let's strengthen and enforce those existing laws, and start prosecuting straw purchasers. Ghost in the Machine Oct 2015 #12
Ghost, you seem unaware of the fetters the gun lobby has encouraged lawmakers to... Nitram Oct 2015 #13
I am fully aware, having been raised around guns all my life. I have NO USE for the NRA, nor their Ghost in the Machine Oct 2015 #14
I also have been around guns all my life, and have no use for NRA. Nitram Oct 2015 #15
I can certainly, and politely, agree to disagree with you on the registration issue. The way *I* see Ghost in the Machine Oct 2015 #18
What worries me is that... Nitram Oct 2015 #19
See? We also have a differing interpretation of the 2nd Amendment... Ghost in the Machine Oct 2015 #24
In fact, after the Revolutionary War the Continental Army was quickly disbanded... Nitram Oct 2015 #25
Interesting! I will have to check that out, as I had read differently, but that was a long time ago Ghost in the Machine Oct 2015 #27
Did you forget about this? Ghost in the Machine Oct 2015 #48
I've been around guns all my life too. I have no use for guns or the NRA. hunter Oct 2015 #34
our problem is larger than just "criminals". maxsolomon Oct 2015 #23
"pre-criminals"?? That's getting close to the territory of the "Thought Police", IMHO... Ghost in the Machine Oct 2015 #26
we agree. he should never have had a gun. maxsolomon Oct 2015 #29
Thank you very much, maxsoloman.. Ghost in the Machine Oct 2015 #50
"Guns don't kill people. People with guns kill people" Bonx Oct 2015 #16
People without guns give you a bloody nose. hay rick Oct 2015 #39
You should tell them then. Bonx Oct 2015 #49
There are no homicides without guns? That is interesting news. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #55
So you would rather meet a deranged or angry person with a gun than one without a gun. hay rick Oct 2015 #59
The question isn't what I want a criminal to have because neither of us can control other people. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #60
"...you're too stupid to own one." Iggo Oct 2015 #17
Yes GummyBearz Oct 2015 #21
And we don't need to send any guns to jail. Just some idiots who use them.n't pnwmom Oct 2015 #20
Right. Straw Man Oct 2015 #46
So no arbitrary magazine limits or "assault weapon" bans, eh? Bravo. n/t X_Digger Oct 2015 #43
Exactly. nt Straw Man Oct 2015 #45
Like I said upthread Recursion Oct 2015 #52
We need to protect ourselves. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #47
You lot are great at finding cartoons, but piss-poor at finding voters who agree with you friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #53
More regulation on manufacturers in U.S. and heavy tariff on imports. YOHABLO Oct 2015 #51
Criminals who use guns aren't buying from the manufacturers. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #56
Except to many gun restrictionists want to ban some guns if not all guns. aikoaiko Oct 2015 #57
and cigarettes don't cause cancer, people choosing to smoke them does Electric Monk Oct 2015 #66
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