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Lancero

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30. Not really, he's just a further symptom of our actions in regards to them.

Sat Oct 17, 2015, 12:23 AM

Oct 2015

The root cause is the US's constant inability - starting pretty much from the day the armistice was signed with them - to adhere to agreements we make with them.

The very first agreement that the US decided it didn't have to honor was the portion of the armstice that said we weren't to introduce new weapons to the area - And we decided that our forces currently in S. Korea needed atomic weapons.

We had a good chance back in 94 to start making things right with them, but with Congress changing over to Republicans soon after the agreement was signed, well... As KEDO's first director said "The Agreed Framework was a political orphan within two weeks after its signature"

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This is why 28,500 troops are still in Korea. [View all] rug Oct 2015 OP

No, there are 28,500 US troops in S. Korea GGJohn Oct 2015 #1

So, South Korea stands ready to come to our defense? rug Oct 2015 #2

I personally witnessed S. Koreans fighting on our side in Vietnam, GGJohn Oct 2015 #3

"our side in Vietnam"? Ehat side? What the hell were we doing there in the first place? rug Oct 2015 #5

The fact is that they were fighting on our side in Vietnam, GGJohn Oct 2015 #21

Face it, Vietnam was not our finest hour. Some liked killing Vietnamese like Muslims today. Hoyt Oct 2015 #31

So you would be in favor of pulling US troops out of S. Korea? eom. GGJohn Oct 2015 #43

How did you arrive at that conclusion? Hoyt Oct 2015 #67

The same way you arrive at your conclusions about firearms owners. eom GGJohn Oct 2015 #72

My conclusions are shared by many. Hoyt Oct 2015 #73

oh what were those conclusions? CreekDog Oct 2015 #104

Whooosh, went right over your head. eom. GGJohn Oct 2015 #110

You want to be able to refer to something without saying what that something is, specifically CreekDog Oct 2015 #118

Buffoons don't kill, starve and enslave their own people. hack89 Oct 2015 #4

Don't forget the Stalin pictures he places in every bedroom. rug Oct 2015 #7

Why do you want to diminish the harm he has done? hack89 Oct 2015 #9

There's a slight gap between "benign" and "kill, starve and enslave their own people". rug Oct 2015 #10

So you are saying that N Korea does not have a gulag? hack89 Oct 2015 #11

Not nearly as many prisons as the U.S. rug Oct 2015 #48

Does criticizing Obama get you put in prison? hack89 Oct 2015 #63

Don't forget the pencils. Pencils will get you a ten year stretch. rug Oct 2015 #64

Ok. Nt hack89 Oct 2015 #65

Hannah Bell? eom. GGJohn Oct 2015 #24

John Birch? eom. rug Oct 2015 #47

FYI, my comment is not shown for some reason Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #87

Thanks for posting the results. rug Oct 2015 #103

A buffoon with nukes, prison camps, and Dennis Rodman! jberryhill Oct 2015 #20

The US has nukes and prison camps. ronnie624 Oct 2015 #28

I am aware of this nations flaws and problems jberryhill Oct 2015 #29

The US power establishment has more than just a few "problems and injustices". ronnie624 Oct 2015 #34

but in NK, you could not say the content of this post treestar Oct 2015 #69

Your post implies that because I have a right, I shouldn't exercise it. ronnie624 Oct 2015 #80

Not in the least jberryhill Oct 2015 #85

There's little hope of persuading people to see their hypocrisy. n/t ronnie624 Oct 2015 #86

We seem to agree on that jberryhill Oct 2015 #88

I can understand your reluctance to post anything coherent here. ronnie624 Oct 2015 #93

It does not imply that at all treestar Oct 2015 #89

Almost forgot. ronnie624 Oct 2015 #38

Sounds peachy, why don't you move there jberryhill Oct 2015 #56

Aww, did I hurt your little patriotic feelings? ronnie624 Oct 2015 #71

Travel tip jberryhill Oct 2015 #74

Ah, so preferring the US to the DPRK is a character flaw jberryhill Oct 2015 #76

You're posts are gibberish on this topic. ronnie624 Oct 2015 #79

Yes, but my punctuation is much clearer jberryhill Oct 2015 #81

Probably. ronnie624 Oct 2015 #84

Imagine what it would be like living there now treestar Oct 2015 #90

I have imagined it. ronnie624 Oct 2015 #96

In a war started by North Korea davidpdx Oct 2015 #112

Therefore the US was right to murder millions there and destroy the entire country? ronnie624 Oct 2015 #121

Yes, I do know about Korean history davidpdx Oct 2015 #123

I "dare" not disagree with your distorted view of history ronnie624 Oct 2015 #124

Your facts are so wrong I don't know where to start davidpdx Oct 2015 #127

All you are really saying in your post ronnie624 Oct 2015 #128

I'm done too davidpdx Oct 2015 #129

It's the things you can be incarcerate FOR that make it a major difference treestar Oct 2015 #70

To be fair, some people live in fear of incarceration for mental illness jberryhill Oct 2015 #77

A terrible thing to happen treestar Oct 2015 #91

Nothing to disagree with, there. ronnie624 Oct 2015 #78

I don't see why then defending SK vs. NK treestar Oct 2015 #92

I'm all for a foreign policy ronnie624 Oct 2015 #105

note the term melm00se Oct 2015 #122

The US incarceration rate is second only to N. Korea! ronnie624 Oct 2015 #125

Call me crazy, but I'd still rather live here than in N. Korea. Crunchy Frog Oct 2015 #107

I wouldn't call you crazy for that. ronnie624 Oct 2015 #111

I can think of many, many countries I would rather live in than here. Crunchy Frog Oct 2015 #113

Too bad most of them won't let us live there FrodosPet Oct 2015 #117

Hannah Bell, is that you in your newest incarnation? eom. GGJohn Oct 2015 #22

KLet me see . . . . rug Oct 2015 #50

There is still the issue of China davidpdx Oct 2015 #36

After 9/11 South Korean fighters were among those patrolling US coastal airspace Recursion Oct 2015 #46

That is very comforting to know. rug Oct 2015 #51

You asked; I answered Recursion Oct 2015 #53

When North Korea invades us I willl cherish their aid. rug Oct 2015 #55

Why is their aid only valuable against North Korea? Recursion Oct 2015 #57

It's odd if you consider it a legitimate "defense" treaty. rug Oct 2015 #58

I'm sorry, but you my friend haven't a clue! CajunBlazer Oct 2015 #98

Maintaining tens of thosands of troops for a half centry in Korea is insanity. rug Oct 2015 #102

Removing North Korea would be a threat for a couple of different reasons davidpdx Oct 2015 #115

The military option is never the only option. rug Oct 2015 #116

Yes, I do remember threads in the past that you have started about our involvement in South Korea davidpdx Oct 2015 #119

Yes. They do. Glassunion Oct 2015 #99

From what? rug Oct 2015 #101

Precisely Sherman A1 Oct 2015 #40

It looks like intestines. KentuckyWoman Oct 2015 #6

He was in a lube factory last year. rug Oct 2015 #8

Hannah Bell, welcome back. GGJohn Oct 2015 #25

That's about as substantive a post as you can muster. rug Oct 2015 #52

It's the NK version of Soylent Green. roamer65 Oct 2015 #15

That's it! The bast shit crazy dictator is pureeing his own people! rug Oct 2015 #54

Soylent Green? Crunchy Frog Oct 2015 #108

Soylent green is people. rug Oct 2015 #109

Already have it on DVD. Crunchy Frog Oct 2015 #114

If that's the reason, then it is an incredible waste of money daleo Oct 2015 #12

Yeah, I'm sure that's the reason for the 28,500 US troops in S. Korea. GGJohn Oct 2015 #26

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1950? NobodyHere Oct 2015 #14

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Did I say they did? NobodyHere Oct 2015 #17

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No prob NobodyHere Oct 2015 #19

They used to be very capable and do represent a threat davidn3600 Oct 2015 #27

They could not make a sustained invasion, davidpdx Oct 2015 #32

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And that is why the US has 28,500 troops here davidpdx Oct 2015 #37

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Did you notice they have The Bomb? Recursion Oct 2015 #45

Yeah, that guy is in charge of this: joshcryer Oct 2015 #23

That idiot isn't in charge of shit Brother Buzz Oct 2015 #97

Not really, he's just a further symptom of our actions in regards to them. Lancero Oct 2015 #30

Additional weapons may have been introducted davidpdx Oct 2015 #33

We have always had ground artillery in Korea 1939 Oct 2015 #41

Perhaps, but it doesn't change the fact that we tried. Lancero Oct 2015 #95

OMFG Recursion Oct 2015 #49

Yes. Lancero Oct 2015 #94

Bad Haircuts and McNugget meat? alphafemale Oct 2015 #42

Looks a lot like the "pink slime" that is injected into American fast food meat..wrong color though. Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #62

Didn't he just shoot his own defense minister with an anti-aircraft gun? (nt) Recursion Oct 2015 #44

Yes, for faling asleep during a meeting rug Oct 2015 #59

Yeah, but I knocked off General Tso just last night for dinner jberryhill Oct 2015 #83

For some counter-propaganda, this IS a beautiful stadium: Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #60

Did you know the host coutry gets to add a sport? rug Oct 2015 #61

It is easy to confuse American enemy N. Korea with good buddy Saudi Arabia.....although Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #66

According to the legend Jake Stern Oct 2015 #68

At a lube factory in Baltimore, no doubt. NuclearDem Oct 2015 #75

Victorious DPRK Leader Invents World's Thickest Lo Mein Noodle jberryhill Oct 2015 #82

True but with a caveat... Glassunion Oct 2015 #100

and why do we have about 30,000 plus troops in Germany? SummerSnow Oct 2015 #106

Why don't you do a little research on the subject? CajunBlazer Oct 2015 #120

I know why . I wasn't asking a question, I was making a statement. SummerSnow Oct 2015 #126