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Jim Lane

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67. I see two problems with what you suggest.

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Sun Oct 18, 2015, 03:43 PM

Oct 2015

First, the Electoral College favors the Republicans because of the overrepresentation of the small rural states, most of which are red. It's been argued by some that the winner-take-all feature works to counterbalance this. A big urbanized state offers candidates a large bloc of votes. As a result, the candidates pay more attention to that state, and a vote in that state is more likely to swing the election. If winner-take-all were eliminated, the pro-Republican bias that arises from giving each state two additional votes, regardless of population, would be unchecked.

Second, allocating votes by Congressional district exacerbates the gerrymandering problem. It would be quite conceivable that, in a highly gerrymandered state, the Democratic candidate could get more votes statewide but the Republican candidate could get more of that state's electoral votes.

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