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LostOne4Ever

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117. I absolutely hate the what the man did to our country

Sun Oct 18, 2015, 09:41 PM

Oct 2015

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=teal]But I am not so lost in my ideology that I would attribute something that horrific to the man.

He was incompetent beyond imagination, but I don't think he was evil. And most certainly, I don't think he was on the level of a Saturday morning supervillian evil. Carl Rove or Dick Cheney might be that evil but not GWB.

If anything, GWB is a cautionary tale of what happens when you make Archie Bunker President.[/font]

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I Say Bush Welcomed The 9/11 Attacks - Agree? [View all] Yallow Oct 2015 OP

He was expecting them... KansDem Oct 2015 #1

Just watch his reaction to this question: Trailrider1951 Oct 2015 #116

in my office, a young man got a call from his sister hollysmom Oct 2015 #2

Seeing that young Worried senior Oct 2015 #12

I had to walk away, I was a basket case and it was happening to him. I could not help him. hollysmom Oct 2015 #15

I'm sure it was hell Worried senior Oct 2015 #19

PNAC elleng Oct 2015 #3

+1 Never forget! nt Live and Learn Oct 2015 #37

When the question is "Who is behind something horrible?" hifiguy Oct 2015 #97

That gang was and continues to be a bunch of bad actors, elleng Oct 2015 #101

List of PNAC members ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2015 #111

I think he was expecting an attack. mainstreetonce Oct 2015 #4

That is what I have long suspected Siwsan Oct 2015 #6

It was just a coincidence he was out of town that day. PADemD Oct 2015 #17

He was out of town the entire MONTH: arcane1 Oct 2015 #58

I've always thought this - theyexpected an attack, hedgehog Oct 2015 #22

exactly . . .n/t annabanana Oct 2015 #24

I'm not sure Bush knew much. Someone did. Cheney. Rummy. elehhhhna Oct 2015 #60

Cheney was commanding military exercises with the Air Force in New England.[n/t] Maedhros Oct 2015 #67

I remember that very well. truebluegreen Oct 2015 #86

Yup. I describe my position as "LIHOP Lite". KamaAina Oct 2015 #53

His administration certainly benefited greatly. Chemisse Oct 2015 #5

He Had People Around Him That Were Shrewd Enough To Plan This Or Allow It To Happen.... global1 Oct 2015 #9

It's ludicrous that he could still be considered the 'presumptive nominee' when he is in 6th place. Chemisse Oct 2015 #30

Rubio is more likely. nt tblue37 Oct 2015 #41

It Ain't Over Till It's Over.... global1 Oct 2015 #66

That's one of the reasons I least want Bush to win this. Chemisse Oct 2015 #90

I agree. It did just happen treestar Oct 2015 #64

can't start a war of choice without motivating the people first and 9/11 definately did that. craigmatic Oct 2015 #7

�some catastrophic and catalysing event Ernesto Oct 2015 #14

Regarding that quote, OnyxCollie Oct 2015 #21

The Truth Is Never A Conspiracy Yallow Oct 2015 #8

You seem to have decided, so not much point debating the issue... brooklynite Oct 2015 #10

^this^ Adsos Letter Oct 2015 #27

Oh? RobertEarl Oct 2015 #31

+1 NobodyHere Oct 2015 #39

one thing that doesn't require speculation Enrique Oct 2015 #11

Trump didn't seem to imply that at all. Chemisse Oct 2015 #32

Richard Clark repeatedly warned Bushco about the threats until they fired him. onecaliberal Oct 2015 #36

Excellent post malaise Oct 2015 #113

Election 2000 mainstreetonce Oct 2015 #13

"Welcomed"? Not so much IMHO Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2015 #16

^this^ Adsos Letter Oct 2015 #29

Well stated sarisataka Oct 2015 #35

I don't know ... He certainly had no qualms about slaughtering tens of thousands of Iraqis. Arugula Latte Oct 2015 #50

I'm not sure they cared too much about the potential consequences of their actions in Iraq Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2015 #89

I didn't say he welcomed it; my opinion is that it didn't bother him much. Arugula Latte Oct 2015 #108

exactly! sociopaths all! n/t wildbilln864 Oct 2015 #92

He said so himself: Trifecta. SalviaBlue Oct 2015 #18

He was asleep at the wheel Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2015 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author uppityperson Oct 2015 #23

Agree! UCmeNdc Oct 2015 #25

No. I worked for government. HassleCat Oct 2015 #26

But we knew already that Bush and Cheney were warned by the intel community Rex Oct 2015 #28

^^^THAT^^^ onecaliberal Oct 2015 #38

There is also documented proof the CIA had surveillance on some of the terrorists in Florida Rex Oct 2015 #40

Ding! onecaliberal Oct 2015 #42

it is so obvious, that the people making excuses for the Bush WH are like open books. Rex Oct 2015 #45

That would be the Clinton WH, correct? hack89 Oct 2015 #43

Yes and the Clintons passed on all that information to the Bush WH. Rex Oct 2015 #44

Why didn't Clinton simply arrest the hijackers if they knew everything about them? hack89 Oct 2015 #46

You mean for the two weeks he was still in office? Rex Oct 2015 #48

The hijackers were in a America for an entire year before Bush took office hack89 Oct 2015 #51

And when The Clinton WH told the Bush WH about it and gave them all the intel Rex Oct 2015 #52

If the Intel was that detailed than why didn't they arrest the hijackers? hack89 Oct 2015 #55

They were leaving the WH because the term was up and a new group of people were inbound. Rex Oct 2015 #56

So for a year they were clueless and two weeks before leaving they knew everything? hack89 Oct 2015 #62

The Clintons had far less time then the Bush team did and all the info. Rex Oct 2015 #68

You said Clinton gave them all this great intel. hack89 Oct 2015 #82

They ignored it all, boy are you a funny one. Nice defence of Bush and Cheney but fail. Rex Oct 2015 #96

If it was actionable intel hack89 Oct 2015 #98

Obviously they didn't ignore anything and had it all in the report Bush ignored. Rex Oct 2015 #100

So writing a report is action in your mind? hack89 Oct 2015 #102

No in my mind Bush ignored all warning signs from every security report handed to him Rex Oct 2015 #103

You said Clinton gave him everything he needed to stop 911 hack89 Oct 2015 #104

Yes that is what I meant, fail at mind reading. Rex Oct 2015 #105

You said all the WH had to do was tell the CIA to pick up the hijackers hack89 Oct 2015 #106

I said Clinton gave Bush all he needed and Bush ignored it all and failed the country on 9/11. Rex Oct 2015 #107

No. That is exactly what you said in the post hack89 Oct 2015 #109

No you asked me why Clinton did not do something and you would have to ask him personally Rex Oct 2015 #110

For suspicion? B Calm Oct 2015 #57

LOL! I love this! Rex Oct 2015 #59

The poster I am replying to seems to think it was enough for Bush to arrest them hack89 Oct 2015 #63

Maybe Bush should have kept an eye on them since he was briefed about it? B Calm Oct 2015 #65

He didn't read the briefing. He said as much. Rex Oct 2015 #72

But was he? hack89 Oct 2015 #83

A lot more intel and terrorists flying by mid 2000? Rex Oct 2015 #70

It said nothing about flying into buildings jberryhill Oct 2015 #69

True it just mentioned hijacking a plane. Rex Oct 2015 #73

It mentioned explosives, which weren't used... jberryhill Oct 2015 #76

It also mentioned OBL was thinking about hijacking plane(s). Rex Oct 2015 #77

There WAS Intel about them hijacking planes and flying them into buildings. onecaliberal Oct 2015 #84

Not in that memo jberryhill Oct 2015 #87

I said Intel. Did you read the comment. onecaliberal Oct 2015 #91

Bush had a chance to be a hero and ignored his own intel community for 8 months. Rex Oct 2015 #33

Expecting yes, because he was never in charge anyway Puzzledtraveller Oct 2015 #34

Newspapers in Florida was going to announce the results of their presidential recount B Calm Oct 2015 #47

"You've covered your ass" ... Arugula Latte Oct 2015 #49

Why else would he take a month-long vacation 8 months into his term? arcane1 Oct 2015 #54

He had to be ready to maybe jump on the Saudi plane that flew out of country the next day. Rex Oct 2015 #61

Well, PNAC did say they needed a "new Pearl Harbor" so that we could go to war with Iraq jfern Oct 2015 #71

Yeah well that is something else not supposed to be talked about. Rex Oct 2015 #75

I'm in the "Let it happen" camp That Guy 888 Oct 2015 #74

Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #78

I wouldn't say he welcomed the attacks. louis-t Oct 2015 #79

Why would you say that? Rex Oct 2015 #80

This type of conspiracy theory TeddyR Oct 2015 #81

No what is sad is that supposed progressives don't know the history so they post like you do. Rex Oct 2015 #99

Absolutely. I recall it vividly. Crunchy Frog Oct 2015 #85

I think Cheney welcomed the attacks. I just am not able to give Shrubby that much credit even for Tipperary Oct 2015 #88

9/11 Trillions: Follow The Money wildbilln864 Oct 2015 #93

Bin Laden Didn't Blow Up the Projects mhatrw Oct 2015 #94

I wouldn't say welcomed, exactly, but LIHOP... Wounded Bear Oct 2015 #95

I'll call the Donald and raise him a: not only did he not keep us safe, but key people associated ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2015 #112

Bush Knew. Cheney did it! pandora nm Oct 2015 #114

yes rockfordfile Oct 2015 #115

I absolutely hate the what the man did to our country LostOne4Ever Oct 2015 #117

Without that day he would've been a shitty footnote in history. A failed one termer. At the Guy Whitey Corngood Oct 2015 #118