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12. This is dumb. The kids voted for who the kids voted for.

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Mon Oct 19, 2015, 04:10 PM

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Concerns raised over lack of diversity in SF school election results [View all] philosslayer Oct 2015 OP

What was the turnout like among students of color? KamaAina Oct 2015 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author jonno99 Oct 2015 #35

Turnout? oberliner Oct 2015 #70

Ah, KTVU, the station that gave us "Sum Ting Wong". KamaAina Oct 2015 #2

KTVU is the Fox affilate kimbutgar Oct 2015 #3

It's been owned by Fox for the past year KamaAina Oct 2015 #4

And I have noticed a change in the reporting, more rightwing anti Democratic party kimbutgar Oct 2015 #5

Good principal. She chose to make the importance of diversity a teaching moment brush Oct 2015 #6

If she overruled the results because she didn't think enough white kids got elected, Nye Bevan Oct 2015 #8

She did no such thing KamaAina Oct 2015 #9

Of course not, but I think it was the other way around brush Oct 2015 #10

So given that the student body is 20% white, Nye Bevan Oct 2015 #11

You seem to think that not enough white students were elected brush Oct 2015 #14

I have no idea which way around it was, Nye Bevan Oct 2015 #17

I really don't get what you're talking about brush Oct 2015 #18

Yes, I'm against the principal tinkering with the election results. Nye Bevan Oct 2015 #20

Okay. That's clear brush Oct 2015 #26

What about teaching kids the importance of elections? nt hack89 Oct 2015 #52

They teach them early that votes don't matter in elections in SF, don't they. Travis_0004 Oct 2015 #76

How would you like it if your Sec. of State refused to release election results? RandySF Oct 2015 #79

Maybe teaching the importance of inclusiveness and fairness of opportunity . . . brush Oct 2015 #85

You're exactly right philosslayer Oct 2015 #13

So if all of the elected students were black, that would be a non-diverse outcome, Nye Bevan Oct 2015 #15

I would think there was some manipulation if all those elected were black . . . brush Oct 2015 #21

With a student body that's 80% black, it's entirely possible that all the winners are black, Nye Bevan Oct 2015 #22

If the student body was 80% white... philosslayer Oct 2015 #24

Provided that the election is conducted fairly and all the votes are counted, Nye Bevan Oct 2015 #29

I think you're the only sane one around....... 7962 Oct 2015 #88

Come on. No way is that school 80% black. brush Oct 2015 #27

In the news story the principal says that it's 80% black. Nye Bevan Oct 2015 #30

No, she says it's 80% students of color KamaAina Oct 2015 #31

Ever notice who gets all riled up when RACE is the issue randys1 Oct 2015 #51

On the issue of who gets riled when it's about firearms. GGJohn Oct 2015 #61

Yep! Sure do. They're arguing against diversity on a progressive site. My God! brush Oct 2015 #63

Lots of DUers (but not me) are backing a white male for President (nt) Nye Bevan Oct 2015 #97

Everett has lots of Latinos, Asians and African-Americans. Gormy Cuss Oct 2015 #101

Check out their website B2G Oct 2015 #33

And what is it supposedly showing? brush Oct 2015 #37

That no way minorities can make enough to live there B2G Oct 2015 #43

And you think that's what I'm saying? brush Oct 2015 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author RandySF Oct 2015 #80

That doesn't mean anything. RandySF Oct 2015 #81

Um.. Excuse me? skepticscott Oct 2015 #91

Have you ever been there? I have. Gormy Cuss Oct 2015 #118

Thanks for calling out the obvious, Jesus Malverde Oct 2015 #111

FWIW it's not an 80% black school. Jesus Malverde Oct 2015 #110

So why even bother with the pretense of an election skepticscott Oct 2015 #89

Why is diversity paramount? skepticscott Oct 2015 #90

You're kidding, right? You don't know that and you're on a progressive site? brush Oct 2015 #98

Thanks, I know why diversity is important to consider skepticscott Oct 2015 #99

Sorry! I decline, can't help you. brush Oct 2015 #100

In other words, you made a bogus statement skepticscott Oct 2015 #104

Read all my and other's posts on diversity on this thread brush Oct 2015 #105

In other words, you made a bogus statement skepticscott Oct 2015 #120

Is there a reading comprehension problem? brush Oct 2015 #121

Did you forget the sarcasm tag? Did you say if whites were underepresented then to kelly1mm Oct 2015 #19

I didn't say that at all brush Oct 2015 #23

These are children philosslayer Oct 2015 #25

If you continue posting false equivalencies as a response, do you think it makes you more clever? LanternWaste Oct 2015 #39

As far as we know at this point, that might actually be what happened. Nye Bevan Oct 2015 #41

she didn't overrule the election results, but nice try in getting people here to think that CreekDog Oct 2015 #102

Yep, and teach the kids that elections and voting dumbcat Oct 2015 #28

Or to teach the kids the importance of everyone getting a fair shake . . . brush Oct 2015 #34

What exactly is the principal trying to do? onenote Oct 2015 #36

Oh, I totally understand your position dumbcat Oct 2015 #45

It's school. Diversity is important to most people on a progressive site. The principal is . . . brush Oct 2015 #49

Teaching about Democracy dumbcat Oct 2015 #50

Please take a moment to consider... Whiskeytide Oct 2015 #56

For your information, the principal is not voiding the election brush Oct 2015 #57

I think that's a fantastic goal... Whiskeytide Oct 2015 #67

We'll have to agree to disagree. The necessity of diversity and inclusiveness . . . brush Oct 2015 #68

And does it also trump what the actual voters skepticscott Oct 2015 #92

Perfectly said...your vote is useless because you didn't vote for the right race ileus Oct 2015 #107

She voided the students' voices. RandySF Oct 2015 #78

Maybe you didn't hear that's she's not voiding the election brush Oct 2015 #86

You live here and that's what you take from this story? Gormy Cuss Oct 2015 #119

did the students of no color rig the election lol nt msongs Oct 2015 #7

This is dumb. The kids voted for who the kids voted for. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2015 #12

If diversity was their primary concern B2G Oct 2015 #16

The article doesn't contain nearly enough detail to begin to understand what actually happened. n/t PoliticAverse Oct 2015 #32

The Principal didn't trust the "voters" and so made their choices for them? Got it. "You see kids, jonno99 Oct 2015 #38

Nothing wrong with diversity being a factor. Women and people of color deserve opportunity too brush Oct 2015 #40

Sure, but what would you tell the girls and/or the kids of color that perhaps jonno99 Oct 2015 #42

Were they not allowed to run? MichMan Oct 2015 #54

No. The results were not diverse in an ethnically mixed student body so . . . brush Oct 2015 #55

Are you sure THAT is the lesson being taught? hughee99 Oct 2015 #58

Indeed, a powerful, paternalistic white person will step in and fix those pesky election results Nye Bevan Oct 2015 #59

Usually when there is a lack of diversity it's people of color excluded brush Oct 2015 #64

Well, usually when there is a lack of diversity it's that white people are NOT the ones excluded brush Oct 2015 #62

Not outrageous but still sends the same message hughee99 Oct 2015 #65

It's a school. A good environment for learning about inclusiveness so that one segment . . . brush Oct 2015 #66

The school is 80% people of color. I don't think the issue is that they're not aware of diversity hughee99 Oct 2015 #69

A lot of lessons can be learned brush Oct 2015 #75

I'm intersted to hear more about it, hughee99 Oct 2015 #82

Yeah, great ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2015 #83

Where does it say the principal made their choices for them? onenote Oct 2015 #44

Just reading between the following lines: jonno99 Oct 2015 #47

I edited my post while you were writing yours to give a fuller quote from the principal. onenote Oct 2015 #48

The principal is blonde...there are too many blonde administrators so the principal should be.... 4139 Oct 2015 #53

What if the minority students decided to elect Kang Colby Oct 2015 #60

That would be very cool ... Whiskeytide Oct 2015 #74

Maybe only white people wanted to run oberliner Oct 2015 #71

It is a little depressing that the Democratic debates comprise 5 middle-aged white people. Nye Bevan Oct 2015 #72

I agree oberliner Oct 2015 #73

And who else do you suggest skepticscott Oct 2015 #93

Cory Booker (nt) Nye Bevan Oct 2015 #94

That's only half an answer skepticscott Oct 2015 #96

I just wish the candidates were more reflective of the population oberliner Oct 2015 #95

The principal should be more concerned about all the fighting around the block RandySF Oct 2015 #77

You probably shouldn't be so specific about things like your Childs school Jesus Malverde Oct 2015 #113

Parents are not happy. RandySF Oct 2015 #84

Seems like the principal has backed down: Nye Bevan Oct 2015 #87

Yes GummyBearz Oct 2015 #103

Why have elections then? Why not just appoint the persons he/she wants instead? ileus Oct 2015 #106

I'll take a crack at this... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Oct 2015 #108

Rich parents don't send their kids to go to school in the mission. Jesus Malverde Oct 2015 #114

OK, I overstated the family income WhaTHellsgoingonhere Oct 2015 #115

In SF diversity is never easy. Jesus Malverde Oct 2015 #116

For those thinking this is a white/black issue. Jesus Malverde Oct 2015 #109

OK, then household income, as I suggested above WhaTHellsgoingonhere Oct 2015 #112

I reced this cause after 100 comments you deserve at least one. Jesus Malverde Oct 2015 #117

The kids voted and the principal is telling them they are wrong. kiva Oct 2015 #122

It is logical that the students elected who they wanted. What they're being taught....... WillowTree Oct 2015 #123

Another article on the issue, this one with a lot more details... PoliticAverse Oct 2015 #124