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42. Yes, I think that was the motivation for such laws --
Fri May 25, 2012, 10:32 AM
May 2012

It was a popular strategy for parents with assets -- but not enough assets to purchase long term care insurance -- to transfer assets to their children, either by gift, or favorable sale, prior to needing nursing home care or expensive medical treatment. Then they did not have to "spend down" their assets before becoming eligible for Medicaid.

About 20 or 30 years ago, maybe more, this practice was widespread enough to inspire these laws so that assets that had been hidden in this way could be clawed back to help pay the medical and other care that these parents had received.

It may be that the laws intended to correct this problem have gone too far. But let's not blame ALEC for their existence.

In Louisiana (my state), I notice that there has to be some hearing before the children are held responsible for any debts. Presumably this would be an opportunity to examine whether assets had been transferred or not.

Perhaps a lawyer could weigh in on this?

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Ryan's budget has something like this KT2000 May 2012 #1
Debtors' prisons can't be far behind Major Nikon May 2012 #2
WHEN THE GOP ENDS THE FEDERAL MANDATE UNDER MECIAID THE KIDS WILL BE FORCED TO PAY. TheMastersNemesis May 2012 #3
This will have dire consequences for the economy. GarroHorus May 2012 #4
I know dana_b May 2012 #15
When my father died, I couldn't believe who tried to hit me up for his only debt: His bookie! Petrushka May 2012 #24
. Liberal_in_LA May 2012 #53
That was my first reaction too . . . but . . . then it became the bookies' reaction when . . . Petrushka May 2012 #56
Is there any provision for the state proving left is right May 2012 #27
States with this evil law GarroHorus May 2012 #5
fascinating, thanks. n/t grasswire May 2012 #10
When the reality of this kind of law comes home to people, they will revolt, big time. CTyankee May 2012 #11
Thank you! It's interesting to note the difference between, say, WV, OH, & PA laws. (eom) Petrushka May 2012 #25
Thanks for sharing. nt ecstatic May 2012 #38
That's pretty interesting it's a mix of red and blue states... snooper2 May 2012 #39
thanks for this map! renate May 2012 #47
you wouldn't believe how fast I hit that site when I first read this article magical thyme May 2012 #58
This will make people commit suicide. woo me with science May 2012 #6
or murder. HiPointDem May 2012 #8
You're right. nt woo me with science May 2012 #9
Someone told me 30 states have laws marlakay May 2012 #7
That is what I was thinking... Kalidurga May 2012 #12
+1. These kinds of laws are atrocious. wickerwoman May 2012 #29
How can this be legal? Marr May 2012 #13
what a crock... this is seriously flawed... JCMach1 May 2012 #14
lovely.... dana_b May 2012 #16
If conservatives have their way. JDPriestly May 2012 #20
"It's a choice about being socially cohesive or socially divided." dana_b May 2012 #21
So who are all these conservatives in California who voted for this filial law? snooper2 May 2012 #41
Idiots who lived here before my time. JDPriestly May 2012 #50
"today's seniors paid the Social Security and Medicare costs for their parents." Hatchling May 2012 #54
Thanks. We've been had. JDPriestly May 2012 #55
Good luck checking on their plans Mariana May 2012 #28
yeah - that's helpful, right? dana_b May 2012 #44
I'd say these laws are bills of attainder, which are unconstitutional. NYC Liberal May 2012 #17
I have been warning younger people on DU about this for a long time. JDPriestly May 2012 #18
In the interest of accuracy ..... oldhippie May 2012 #37
The Hunger Games Amster Dan May 2012 #19
Confucian philosophy in american laws? when did this shit happen? Suji to Seoul May 2012 #22
How would that work if your mother & father divorced after willingly giving you to the State and Petrushka May 2012 #23
You can't work. I have been taking care of the wife for four years, and that is a full time job. sarcasmo May 2012 #62
That is fucked up. BlueIris May 2012 #26
And what if your parents abused you Shankapotomus May 2012 #30
Thirty states have this law? Was it one of ALECs "gifts"? Had YOU heard of it before? peacebird May 2012 #31
Holding an innocent person responsible for the debt of relatives... Larry Ogg May 2012 #32
As a matter of fact, I have heard Obama say that we are indeed, the envy of the world. SammyWinstonJack May 2012 #51
When he says, "We are the envy of the world!" he might have a mouse in his pocket… Larry Ogg May 2012 #61
Couple that with student loan debts and the current generation Javaman May 2012 #33
WTF? Why haven't I heard about this before? Odin2005 May 2012 #34
Don't the parents have to transfer their assets to their kids BEFORE this happens? uponit7771 May 2012 #35
Yes, I think that was the motivation for such laws -- IphengeniaBlumgarten May 2012 #42
Debt - the magical ever re-newing Gold Mine. Nt xchrom May 2012 #36
Well said. avaistheone1 May 2012 #40
The GOP Congress Has Passed Laws Against Transfer Of Assets TheMastersNemesis May 2012 #43
These laws are widespread, but most lawyers won't touch them Sen. Walter Sobchak May 2012 #45
The "sins" of the father visited upon the sons & daughters? Democrats_win May 2012 #46
We could make it a crime to be old and require nursing home care. hunter May 2012 #48
A new form of Safe Haven Law? FarCenter May 2012 #49
Actually, I wish I'd had that option for my MIL. Habibi May 2012 #63
CA just got rid of that practice Liberal_in_LA May 2012 #52
What do you mean 'got rid of'? Zalatix May 2012 #57
see attached. Liberal_in_LA May 2012 #64
Well I'll be darned. You just put a smile on a person's face tonight. Zalatix May 2012 #65
Bankruptcy for MR Pittas, what a messed up society we live in. sarcasmo May 2012 #59
And yet, Ken Lay's family is untouchable after he stole millions at Enron. Alexander May 2012 #60
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