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35. It is easy enough.

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Tue Oct 20, 2015, 03:46 PM

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The 5 Phases of Gentrification -- When can it be stopped? [View all] GreatGazoo Oct 2015 OP

Phase 6 - Bistrofication Facility Inspector Oct 2015 #1

love it GreatGazoo Oct 2015 #2

phases 7 and 8 enid602 Oct 2015 #52

How do you propose to stop it? AngryAmish Oct 2015 #3

Protect those at risk -- Seniors, families, low income GreatGazoo Oct 2015 #5

I might be wrong but wouldn't a good voucher system from jwirr Oct 2015 #19

No, because voucher payments are set too low for rents in newly gentrified areas. Gormy Cuss Oct 2015 #22

Okay. I know that my son in law has a several rental jwirr Oct 2015 #23

HUD just lowered the value of vouchers in the Bay Area daredtowork Oct 2015 #53

Okay, that is very interesting. In other words HUD is just jwirr Oct 2015 #55

threshold question is whether it should be stopped in all cases. geek tragedy Oct 2015 #4

another question would be whether we can stop the worst effects of gentrification GreatGazoo Oct 2015 #6

it can be delayed, but once the drug dealer goes, the chain of events begins geek tragedy Oct 2015 #9

It's worth noting that G doesn't just "happen." Almost always investors Hortensis Oct 2015 #24

and that's the thing, there's organic revitilization which is the more benign form geek tragedy Oct 2015 #27

"Middle class ownership" is gentrification in low income neighborhoods. Gormy Cuss Oct 2015 #43

So maybe we should put walls around these neighborhoods, ban banks geek tragedy Oct 2015 #44

No, that would be as feckless as ignoring the problems caused by gentrification. Gormy Cuss Oct 2015 #45

redlining certainly did play a role in depressing housing prices in black communities geek tragedy Oct 2015 #46

They worked until other policies undermined them Gormy Cuss Oct 2015 #51

Agreed. hifiguy Oct 2015 #47

My brother lives in Nordeast. geek tragedy Oct 2015 #48

I think you are very correct. hifiguy Oct 2015 #49

nordeast schools are pretty good, apparently. geek tragedy Oct 2015 #50

Don't try to stop it. Nye Bevan Oct 2015 #7

That's the thing. backscatter712 Oct 2015 #8

Agreed. geardaddy Oct 2015 #11

yea, even when the city mandates it there are questions on how to do it GummyBearz Oct 2015 #28

Should it be? brooklynite Oct 2015 #10

It should be to the extent that it displaces low income communities Gormy Cuss Oct 2015 #26

I don't think it is necessarily something that should be stopped. Throd Oct 2015 #12

Good post. nt kelliekat44 Oct 2015 #13

Kill it all past step one. hunter Oct 2015 #14

Killing it at step 1 would mean forcing banks to redline minority and poor neighborhoods. geek tragedy Oct 2015 #25

Nope you are wrong. hunter Oct 2015 #29

So, just back up a few dump trucks full of money and problem solved? nt geek tragedy Oct 2015 #30

Yep. Money requires little more than banking laws, taxes, and a printing press. hunter Oct 2015 #32

Okay, so all we need to do is pass a law banning poverty. Seems easy enough nt geek tragedy Oct 2015 #33

It is easy enough. hunter Oct 2015 #35

which is why poverty doesn't exist outside the US? nt geek tragedy Oct 2015 #36

No. hunter Oct 2015 #38

There is a difference between what various groups consider "undesireable to live" GreatGazoo Oct 2015 #41

as I said in another post in this thread, the key is promoting middle class ownership geek tragedy Oct 2015 #42

As an artist, I know this formula *way* too well Matariki Oct 2015 #15

Yep. My parents are artists. hunter Oct 2015 #31

The speculators and developers arriving on the scene is the return of the predators, original street Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #16

Urban neighborhoods change. That's just what they do. Recursion Oct 2015 #17

It's not just about individual neighborhoods -- it's whole cities starroute Oct 2015 #18

This is the same issue that we are talking about when people jwirr Oct 2015 #21

It should not be stopped. MohRokTah Oct 2015 #20

You thin that's a good thing? hunter Oct 2015 #34

Yes, I do. MohRokTah Oct 2015 #37

"Blight" in the U.S.A. has traditionally been, and still is, extremely racist in its application. hunter Oct 2015 #56

City neighborhoods are a living, breathing dynamic mountain grammy Oct 2015 #39

Gentrification is better than nothing taught_me_patience Oct 2015 #40

I was usually Phase One Warpy Oct 2015 #54