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ronnie624

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25. Anything that flows from capitalism is suspect to me.
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 12:37 PM
Oct 2015
Much more relevant to a correlation between stock ownership and widening wealth inequality is the asset stripping nature of 401(k) plans – part of Wall Street’s institutionalized wealth transfer system.

On April 23, 2013, Frontline producer Martin Smith exposed the following with charts and graphs and interviews: If you work for 50 years and receive the typical long-term return of 7 percent on your 401(k) plan and your fees are 2 percent, almost two-thirds of your account will go to Wall Street. The program was titled The Retirement Gamble.

As we wrote at the time, “This is not so much a gamble as a certainty: under a 2 percent 401(k) fee structure, almost two-thirds of your working life will go toward paying obscene compensation to Wall Street; a little over one-third will benefit your family – and that’s before paying taxes on withdrawals to Uncle Sam.” (You can read our detailed dissection of the program and the math here.)

The same Wall Street banks that are enabled by Congress to asset strip 401(k)s are the very same banks that asset-stripped the equity in the little guys’ homes through illegal foreclosures and mortgage fraud and then were allowed to decide on their own how much to pay their victims.


http://wallstreetonparade.com/2014/10/wall-street-journal-wealth-inequality-is-your-own-dumb-fault/

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And I bet most of them couldn't contribute the maximum. Ilsa Oct 2015 #1
I agree newfie11 Oct 2015 #4
How is that news - or related to a "401(k) crisis"? FBaggins Oct 2015 #2
I see you found the spin put on the story as well GummyBearz Oct 2015 #12
Bravo!! Kilgore Oct 2015 #15
IOW, the crisis is not having access to one BeyondGeography Oct 2015 #3
I don't see them as evil rather they are vulnerable liberal N proud Oct 2015 #5
They are indeed inferior to defined benefit pensions BeyondGeography Oct 2015 #6
Depends. A defined-benefit plan is subject to your employer's credit risk Recursion Oct 2015 #8
There is no 401k crisis. There's a guaranteed government retirement stipend crisis. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #7
So imagine everyone easily has access to an account to save for retirement. Vinca Oct 2015 #9
Was he unaware of the existence of IRAs? Kang Colby Oct 2015 #10
we are a nation of spenders, not savers DrDan Oct 2015 #11
I wonder 1939 Oct 2015 #13
Your income is taxed on a Roth exboyfil Oct 2015 #14
If I may, I think your language in the first paragraph needs a bit of clarification A HERETIC I AM Oct 2015 #32
a Roth shelters future earnings - current income still requires payment of taxes DrDan Oct 2015 #22
A Roth IRA can not "shield current income from taxes" A HERETIC I AM Oct 2015 #31
Even if we have a 401(k) . . .. HughBeaumont Oct 2015 #16
And you're the winner shrike Oct 2015 #21
Not really FBaggins Oct 2015 #26
Sorry, not correct. shrike Oct 2015 #29
As with all else, the answer is "simply have more disposable income" Orrex Oct 2015 #17
Anything that flows from capitalism is suspect to me. ronnie624 Oct 2015 #25
In 1999 I was hired by a mutual fund company Orrex Oct 2015 #30
I call BS on this Kilgore Oct 2015 #18
Did small restaurants offer defined benefit pensions before 401ks? whatthehey Oct 2015 #19
Imagine betting your retirement on the hope that Yupster Oct 2015 #20
There is nothing wrong with 401K's as originally conceived, i.e. in ADDITION to a good pension. stevenleser Oct 2015 #23
Exactly. You're probably too young to remember the three-legged stool concept shrike Oct 2015 #24
This guy simply didn't save money taught_me_patience Oct 2015 #27
Americans in general aren't great at delayed gratification FBaggins Oct 2015 #28
The guy worked in the resturant business. haele Oct 2015 #33
K&R! Omaha Steve Oct 2015 #34
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