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LanternWaste

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34. I can often be quite difficulty indeed, to extrapolate the both the intentions and the sincerity

Reply to Maraya1969 (Original post)

Wed Oct 21, 2015, 12:47 PM

Oct 2015

I can often be quite difficulty indeed, to extrapolate the both the intentions and the sincerity of the one-third to one-half of the original, slave-owning signers of the Declaration of Independence...

And yet for some odd reason we deify them for their wisdom rather than their salad-buffet choosing of copied ideals.

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The contitution says you can own a gun but also that you can own people [View all] Maraya1969 Oct 2015 OP

Here: hunter Oct 2015 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author Maraya1969 Oct 2015 #4

The easiest way to do it... Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #7

OK I got it. Thanks Maraya1969 Oct 2015 #6

it says you can only if a well-regulated militia is neccessary for the security of a free state saturnsring Oct 2015 #2

It says nothing of the sort, of course. Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #5

I don't see any "if" in the amendment dumbcat Oct 2015 #11

doesnt need an if. the militia is gone and only the militia (if it existed) would have that right saturnsring Oct 2015 #15

The militia is gone? dumbcat Oct 2015 #17

Again, that's completely incorrect. Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #21

But by accepted English grammar standards it applies to a well regulated militia and only to an kelliekat44 Oct 2015 #50

That's simply false. Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #54

The Constitution DOES NOT say you can own people. EL34x4 Oct 2015 #3

That is an ammendment added after the civil war. The original Maraya1969 Oct 2015 #8

So pass an amendment banning gun ownership Travis_0004 Oct 2015 #9

A little civics lesson for those who have forgotten: EL34x4 Oct 2015 #12

The irritating thing about that video: they crossed out the wrong document frizzled Oct 2015 #19

They had to keep it simple. EL34x4 Oct 2015 #24

I don't think the gun nuts understand the Constitution. frizzled Oct 2015 #26

And in actually enforcing it, if passed. Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #37

Doesn't matter what the original document said. EL34x4 Oct 2015 #10

It's basically impossible to amend, since you need 100-ish legislatures to agree frizzled Oct 2015 #16

The Constitution has been amended 23 times since 1791. EL34x4 Oct 2015 #20

It is impossible to amend on anything that isn't more or less completely unanimous. frizzled Oct 2015 #22

Texas amends its Constitution all the times. Do you want that? Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #51

It did not prohibit it. former9thward Oct 2015 #23

Actually, it didn't. WillowTree Oct 2015 #25

When passed, the Constitution did not forbid it. It was amended to forbid it, just as it was amended Yo_Mama Oct 2015 #29

EXCEPT is a pretty important word loyalsister Oct 2015 #48

Assuming that you're correct, how do you plan to get the 300+ million guns cleanhippie Oct 2015 #13

Ban the import, sale and manufacture of guns and ammunition. Periodic buybacks and amnesties. frizzled Oct 2015 #18

You have a few errors in there, IMO. Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #27

You can't be taken seriously if you think the statistics showing gun ownership is decreasing are frizzled Oct 2015 #30

I'd say the exact same thing to anyone trusting such surveys. Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #31

Specialized gun oils? EL34x4 Oct 2015 #43

As opposed to this: Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #44

LOL! I read about that! (eom) EL34x4 Oct 2015 #53

"We can help that on its way by banning specialized gun oils too." beevul Oct 2015 #45

Are you saying gun oils don't exist? Let's hope they use WD-40 instead. frizzled Oct 2015 #46

No, I'm saying that it appears that in your worldview reality does not exist. N/T beevul Oct 2015 #47

The lifespan for guns and ammo is indefinite Lurks Often Oct 2015 #32

False for ammunition (30 years at most for reliability), and guns need regular maintenance frizzled Oct 2015 #33

Regular and utterly simple maintenance. Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #35

You are wrong Lurks Often Oct 2015 #36

Such ammunition is not reliable, and all steels corrode slowly. frizzled Oct 2015 #38

You are wrong Lurks Often Oct 2015 #39

I'd rather keep the guns/ammo and get rid of the street gangs and criminals. Waldorf Oct 2015 #40

Yes, I know you feel your right to a gun eclipses everyone else's right to live in a safe country frizzled Oct 2015 #41

It would be safer country if you could get rid of the gangs and criminals. Waldorf Oct 2015 #42

No it doesn't sarisataka Oct 2015 #14

The contitution says you can speak your mind freely but also that you can own people Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #28

I can often be quite difficulty indeed, to extrapolate the both the intentions and the sincerity LanternWaste Oct 2015 #34

Reckless phrasing, the Constitution also says alcohol is illegal before it makes it legal again Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #49

Can you fix your subject line? MagickMuffin Oct 2015 #52