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KharmaTrain

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53. It's Still A Private Entity...

Fri May 25, 2012, 02:52 PM

May 2012

That private airline pays landing and gate fees to the FAA and other government entities. In most cities the airports are owned by the city or some government entity...but once you board the airplane you are on their property and thus if they find something offensive they can prevent a person from boarding. If she had been prevented from entering the airport, that'd be another issue, but this appears to be strictly the right of the airline. While I applaud the message and stand up for free speech in the "public square"...that doesn't include a cramped airplane where stress levels are already high. There are far better places for her to express her dismay...like walking around Capitol Hill with it...

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Woman Kept Off American Airlines Plane For Allegedly Offensive Shirt [View all] Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2012 OP

This is her own fault tkmorris May 2012 #1

But "truck nuts" in public are OK? Dogtown May 2012 #3

No, they're not tkmorris May 2012 #6

How convenient.... Dogtown May 2012 #22

False equivalence = no double standard Major Nikon May 2012 #10

See post #22 Dogtown May 2012 #23

Doesn't change the false equivalence Major Nikon May 2012 #24

I agree. Different standards for airline travel and highway travel. yellowcanine May 2012 #40

The difference is who owns the mode of transportation Major Nikon May 2012 #55

I can only assume you are kidding.... alittlelark May 2012 #5

Actually no, I'm not kidding tkmorris May 2012 #8

If bad manners bars people from flying economy class is gonna get a hell of a lot more legroom. (nt) Posteritatis May 2012 #21

It does and always has Major Nikon May 2012 #26

Better to keep quiet Dogtown May 2012 #25

I didn't see anyone say any such thing.. pipoman May 2012 #74

Why not? It's not violent or threatening. Why can't her shirt make a peaceful political statement? pnwmom May 2012 #14

I agree. This was a stunt. Everyone knows you can't wear cuss words on clothing on a plane. Honeycombe8 May 2012 #31

I agree she is a drama queen looking for her "15 minutes." And she got it. Good. yellowcanine May 2012 #41

I'm sure glad this is still a semi-free country snooper2 May 2012 #43

The country is free pipoman May 2012 #75

So you would disagree with the sign at the public rally as well? suffragette May 2012 #47

Airline personnel have right to control free speech on T Shirts??? Mimosa May 2012 #54

Yes. Airlines are allowed to control speech. NCTraveler May 2012 #71

You should stop exploiting punk rockers for your avatar, right now. JackRiddler May 2012 #56

+1,000,000 LeftyMom May 2012 #58

You have got to be fucking kidding me. WilliamPitt May 2012 #59

Is there a 'dress code' that she was violating? salin May 2012 #66

AA's dress code is on the back of the ticket blueamy66 May 2012 #94

kids in school turn offensive tshirt inside out. would have preferred that seabeyond May 2012 #79

You SUSPECT?? Man, this is a FREE DiverDave May 2012 #93

She was and is right. She has the freedom of speech. Vincardog May 2012 #2

and if the government had thrown her off the plane, maybe she'd have a case onenote May 2012 #7

Are you sure about that? My taxes help pay for the FAA, so this private airline can operate. pnwmom May 2012 #15

It's Still A Private Entity... KharmaTrain May 2012 #53

Yes, I'm sure. And if they wanted to throw you off a plane for wearing an Obama shirt, they could onenote May 2012 #62

Try going into a court room (government) and pipoman May 2012 #78

Only WRT the government, and not always then ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #9

She's using it now to bury American Airlines as unreasonable Johonny May 2012 #12

Freedom of speech does not include cussing in front of children. Honeycombe8 May 2012 #32

the hell you say! WolverineDG May 2012 #35

That is correct. You do not have the right to utter vulgarisms to children not your own....you can Honeycombe8 May 2012 #63

Fuck that WolverineDG May 2012 #70

Surely any kid old enough to read it has heard that word any number of times. LeftyMom May 2012 #60

That's your opinion. You have the right to raise your kids how you see fit. Honeycombe8 May 2012 #64

Ma'am, you're making things up. LeftyMom May 2012 #80

Try it. Go to a convenience store, spot a mother with her children... Honeycombe8 May 2012 #88

Is that how the law works in your world? LeftyMom May 2012 #91

Maybe you're a yankee who lives in a liberal area. I can guarantee you... Honeycombe8 May 2012 #92

Flight attendants are employees, and their uniform dictated by employer. False equivalency. uppityperson May 2012 #84

No she doesn't. NCTraveler May 2012 #72

This type of comment always reminds me how many don't pipoman May 2012 #77

you do have freedom of speech. but not in someone else's house. datasuspect May 2012 #90

There are many businesses that will not allow this kind of profanity on clothing. Nye Bevan May 2012 #4

I wouldn't let someone in my house wearing a shirt like that Major Nikon May 2012 #11

problem is, AA already let her into their "house". uncle ray May 2012 #13

The FAA, to which she pays taxes, lets AA into ITS house. n/t pnwmom May 2012 #17

I don't see the problem Major Nikon May 2012 #20

She was apparently wearing a shawl over her shirt when she boarded the plane. Arkansas Granny May 2012 #46

She pays taxes to the FAA, which lets AA into its "house." pnwmom May 2012 #18

I can't agree Major Nikon May 2012 #19

bullshit. cali May 2012 #33

That explains your stance very clearly. Dogtown May 2012 #27

You couldn't be more wrong Major Nikon May 2012 #30

So people who come to your house with unacceptable clothing snooper2 May 2012 #44

My parties may not start out full nekkid Major Nikon May 2012 #52

Please send them to mine, where the door will be wide open for them. JackRiddler May 2012 #61

Would they prefer this kind of profanity on clothing? pnwmom May 2012 #16

IMO, this is no different than ejecting a guy who makes sexist comments about female pilots. OneTenthofOnePercent May 2012 #28

Couldn't agree more. bighart May 2012 #37

I agree.... eek MD May 2012 #87

She made her choice, they made their choice The2ndWheel May 2012 #29

Yes, I agree and I wish all Americans would just be _ed_ May 2012 #36

She was on a plane The2ndWheel May 2012 #38

So what? (nt) Posteritatis May 2012 #48

"I loved its offensive language" Sea-Dog May 2012 #34

I don't mind that they asked her to change n2doc May 2012 #39

Go to the restroom and turn the shirt inside out. n/t ieoeja May 2012 #42

This is a practical solution siligut May 2012 #45

That's what I was thinking. MadrasT May 2012 #50

My thought, too. An easy solution. lynne May 2012 #69

Another article felix_numinous May 2012 #49

Oh, Dearie Me! Tierra_y_Libertad May 2012 #51

I always carry a roll of duct tape for these situations... Agony May 2012 #57

This was political speech boston bean May 2012 #65

Fuck isn't political speech. Zax2me May 2012 #73

good lord.... Maine-ah May 2012 #67

I wish excessively overweight people littlewolf May 2012 #68

I fart in your general direction! Hubert Flottz May 2012 #83

I don't understand why she missed her connecting flight... TeeYiYi May 2012 #76

Them Nazi Bastids.... Hubert Flottz May 2012 #81

Why didn't she just turn her shirt inside out? n/t tammywammy May 2012 #82

I feel sorry for the other poor bastards pipoman May 2012 #85

Oh boo hoo. She should have been asked to change her shirt or leave. Skip Intro May 2012 #86

During Viet Nam my friend was refused entry to Disneyland for a shirt that said "Fuck the Army" Raine May 2012 #89

This is a good time to remember that American Airlines, on the day it mattered most Bluenorthwest May 2012 #95