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babylonsister

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Thu Oct 22, 2015, 03:39 PM Oct 2015

Josh Marshall: It's Getting Embarrassing [View all]

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/it-s-getting-embarrassing


It's Getting Embarrassing

ByJosh Marshall
Published October 22, 2015, 1:43 PM EDT


Listening to the questions from Republicans questioning Hillary Clinton, it's hard not to step back and ask what it is they're even trying to prove or what their point is. The lines of questions are disjointed and they're pressing points she either freely concedes (yes, it was terrible and she's ultimately responsible) or the point of which isn't even clear (why did Sid Blumenthal send you so many emails?). It's not going well for the committee at all. What's most revealing about the testimony so far is that they definitely get that: they know it's going badly for them. And that's led to a rather churlish and defensive tone to the whole proceeding that's further deflated any sense that this is more than a clown show where the clowns are struggling.

As I've now said several times, it's a world of difference that this happening post-McCarthy and not pre-McCarthy. The questions wouldn't necessarily have been different. The arguments from the GOP would not have been any better. But now the assumption from the press is that Hillary is on the upswing (both in her poll numbers and on the 'Benghazi' question) and the committee members are on the defensive. At least to a degree, she's been vindicated in this whole drama and the committee has been discredited.

If that weren't the case, whatever the fairness or the logic of the questions, the press would have seen the whole drama through the prism of Hillary's on-going undoing. Whether it was fair or made sense would be secondary.

But with a different governing narrative the whole things looks different. There's a very different sense of who's winning and losing and that sense has taken root with Hillary and the committee Republicans themselves, which just magnifies the effect.

Because of all this, Republican committee members just seemed pissed because this was supposed to be awesome - after all, a committee designed to bring down Hillary and circulate all those numskull conspiracy theories about Chris Stevens wearing a chest cam and how President Obama was watching everything happening live on his iPhone. Hillary's yet to get at all flustered and has even had the opportunity to gently explain to Republican members how the State Department works. She looks poised; they're radiating spittle.

It all doesn't help that Chairman Gowdy is such a comical figure. But the real thing is that they're having their big moment - HILLARY ON THE STAND!!! - just as their credibility is collapsing. She's making them regret this is even happening.
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He's absolutely right! arthritisR_US Oct 2015 #1
I- ruffburr Oct 2015 #2
Same here. hifiguy Oct 2015 #13
What you said, plus a couple thousand. SusanaMontana41 Oct 2015 #16
"Republican committee members just seemed pissed because this was supposed to be awesome" pinboy3niner Oct 2015 #3
Yeah. They media already declared a victory on this underpants Oct 2015 #7
The knuckle draggers leave the cave every once in a while. SusanaMontana41 Oct 2015 #20
You can almost forgive them -- this worked so well when they did it to Bill Clinton. phantom power Oct 2015 #4
They "got" him LiberalLovinLug Oct 2015 #31
I still can't get over the patience she is showing! world wide wally Oct 2015 #5
Yes, almost as though she decided to respond to them tavernier Oct 2015 #6
"Getting" embarrassing? GoCubsGo Oct 2015 #8
Welcome to the Howdy Gowdy Show! Dont call me Shirley Oct 2015 #9
May I use that? SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2015 #10
I think I may have gotten it from another DUer who posted the other day. Credit to them... Dont call me Shirley Oct 2015 #11
Post of the Year! SusanaMontana41 Oct 2015 #17
It's not hard to make these cretins look like fools hifiguy Oct 2015 #12
it's BEYOND embarrassing....it should be fucking criminal. spanone Oct 2015 #14
Bozo is pissed his name is associated with these buffoons. kairos12 Oct 2015 #15
FINALLY!!! Proof to the theories that the Republicans are trying to get her elected president Bucky Oct 2015 #18
Heh. Pretty good. Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #23
Ha! babylonsister Oct 2015 #28
Her secret email address........hdr22@clintonemail.com.. Historic NY Oct 2015 #19
An NPR correspondent said the unthinkable this A.M.: "The Republican far right...: Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #21
Someone needs to ask if they still have "Wine Wednesdays". randome Oct 2015 #22
If Republicans had a sense of shame, it would be embarrassing gratuitous Oct 2015 #24
Just watched some prick congressman badger Hillary....... Stainless Oct 2015 #25
Nailed it. Agschmid Oct 2015 #26
repukes always overreach Skittles Oct 2015 #27
A good morning in America always follows a bad day for the GOP ffr Oct 2015 #29
She had to explain how the State Dept works? Lol Beartracks Oct 2015 #30
Wayne Simmons was one of the civillian investigators for trey gowdy's Benghazi committee! Rocky888 Oct 2015 #32
Gowdy proved that it is all phony keithbvadu2 Oct 2015 #33
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