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cynatnite

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38. You are advocating it without evidence...

Fri May 25, 2012, 08:59 PM

May 2012

Pulling out a few stories of old folks committing crimes for the explicit purpose of gaining prison health care does not imply in any way that nursing homes are substandard. It implies that those few elderly who have blindly felt the need to commit a crime for such a purpose have not had access to the resources they need. That's it.

I've spent my time in nursing homes and worked with the elderly. I know their needs, their wants, and what they care about.

In the final years of their live they want respect and dignity. They want to be treated like they're human.

They will never get that in a prison. Not in a million years.

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If you are elderly and poor, prison is better than a retirement home [View all] angstlessk May 2012 OP

This is probably the biggest pile of hogwash I've ever read on DU... cynatnite May 2012 #1

Hogwash would be more accurate to describe the way our society treats the elderly. DontTreadOnMe May 2012 #2

The article is implying that prison is better than a retirement home... cynatnite May 2012 #6

UM, if you are infirm, you will be in the infirmary. WingDinger May 2012 #16

They cannot keep an elderly person for the long term in the infirmary...not even a young prisoner... cynatnite May 2012 #19

That still leaves the choice, prison food, or catfood. I would prefer prison food. WingDinger May 2012 #20

Well, I know for a fact they are not serving catfood in nursing homes... cynatnite May 2012 #22

My sister is in a nursing home on Medicaid. The OP does make a good point. Honeycombe8 May 2012 #35

So, do you think she'd be better off housed with criminals? cynatnite May 2012 #39

It's hard for many of us to shake they feeling we sentenced loved ones to prison-like conditions Generic Other May 2012 #41

I do, too. n/t cynatnite May 2012 #45

There was no choice. I work and am gone all day.... Honeycombe8 May 2012 #49

One. She would share with ONE criminal. Currently, she shares with THREE mentally ill people. Honeycombe8 May 2012 #48

this is true. astral Mar 2016 #54

You're way ahead of the curve. nilesobek Mar 2016 #52

Not hogwash if you actually rob a bank to get healthcare angstlessk May 2012 #3

It is hogwash because you can get health care in a nursing home or retirement home... cynatnite May 2012 #7

Bullshit on you...Federal prisons...which is why old folks are robbing banks and not 7-11's angstlessk May 2012 #12

Federal prisons cannot provide the same level of care than a nursing home... cynatnite May 2012 #18

People in Federal Prison come up for parole. Downwinder May 2012 #36

The elderly do not deserve to spend the final years of their lives in a prison. n/t cynatnite May 2012 #40

Unless you have money, you have to be pretty sick to get in a nursing home. Hoyt Mar 2016 #51

oh nonsense. First of all the number of seniors robbing banks cali May 2012 #37

You seem to think EVERY OLD PERSON can enter a well run nursing home... angstlessk May 2012 #24

It is not acceptable and should never be acceptable... cynatnite May 2012 #28

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Heh. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2016 #53

I've been considering this lately. Voice for Peace May 2012 #4

I saw another one a week or so ago..... Uben May 2012 #5

That's because those places have nursing staff and other medical care workers... cynatnite May 2012 #8

Did you glue your hand to your face? I do believe it is cheaper than angstlessk May 2012 #10

Assisted living still requires health care workers...nurses... cynatnite May 2012 #14

Heck Motel 6 is even cheaper with the same amenities!... angstlessk May 2012 #9

Yep, they'll have free cable, but no nurse to dispense meds for them... cynatnite May 2012 #11

Nursing homes are not there to care for the elderly..they are there for profit angstlessk May 2012 #13

Motel 6 is cheaper for a reason... cynatnite May 2012 #15

I understand that the Motel 6 argument is bogus...but the prison debate angstlessk May 2012 #21

Prison will never be viable for an elderly person... cynatnite May 2012 #25

If the elderly are committing crimes to go to Federal prisons...they speak louder angstlessk May 2012 #27

Wow! There must be a surge of old people robbing banks? cynatnite May 2012 #30

This is drivel from people who believe prison is like a night in a motel rustydog May 2012 #17

If the alternative is to die of a disease that can be treated angstlessk May 2012 #23

It's not living... cynatnite May 2012 #26

So your advise would be they should commit suicide..since their choice is NOT angstlessk May 2012 #29

Are you completely bent? cynatnite May 2012 #31

Screw you too...folks ARE COMMITTING CRIMES TO GO TO PRISON for health care angstlessk May 2012 #34

You are advocating it without evidence... cynatnite May 2012 #38

From my own experience vankuria May 2012 #32

My mother recently spent two weeks in a nursing facility aint_no_life_nowhere May 2012 #33

I'm 100% with you on that one Generic Other May 2012 #42

My hope is for some one to break into my little house in the woods, LiberalArkie May 2012 #43

Finally somebody mentions the smell! LeftyMom May 2012 #46

I kept my mother at home for 5 years before she died lunatica May 2012 #47

I have been around nursing homes for many years now Broderick May 2012 #44