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Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
84. I have a question:
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 02:33 AM
Oct 2015


Ok, so if you are a Christian and you literally believe what's in the Bible (don't know which version you prefer, with or without Apocrypha, or what translation), do you think that it is HONORING and CHERISHING your partner to demand sex from them when they feel terribly sick, say, have the flu, or pneumonia, or if they are a woman, having horrendous menstrual cramps, bedridden, and feeling weak from losing so much blood?


You say it doesn't mention or IMPLY force. Well, if I was married to someone who insisted that I have sex with them when I was quite ill, I would file for divorce as soon as I got better, because obviously that man (I'm a woman) does NOT CARE about my feelings at that time. That is not loving, honoring and cherishing your spouse. Besides, what if the woman refuses, yet you say there is no "force" involved? Not even implied? How do you get a spouse to consent to sex if they don't feel like it unless you use some kind of coercion?


What is force?? Holding a gun to your head? Whining constantly at you until you give in? Yelling at you until you give in? Kicking the bed? (Yes, I have known people who do this.) Pouring water on you while you're lying in bed? Accusing you of faking being sick just "to get attention" when you are in so much pain you wish you would just hurry up and die? Although I just laid there and suffered whether he was in the room or not. (I've heard that one too from an ex-husband.)

Threatening violence?

That said, we all know that Paul was a woman hater who was responsible for a lot of the patriarchal idea of the inferiority of women in Christianity. Not only is god a mass murderer, but men who oppress women and girls and tell them they are chattel and inferior, well, god is fine with that too, because the bible says so. Because it's a huge mess assembled by a committee at the Council of Nicaea as ordered to by Emperor Constantine, and it was edited to add and remove things. I learned that in my religion courses at a Protestant college (not one of these fringe denominations).






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Sick. Brickbat Oct 2015 #1
Gross. TeeYiYi Oct 2015 #2
Solomon needs to realize the laws have finally changed Warpy Oct 2015 #3
I threw up in my mouth a little.... Nt Adrahil Oct 2015 #4
A lot! nt tblue37 Oct 2015 #80
Beyond disgusting! These people have no shame! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2015 #5
There is nothing Christian about raping your partner. Ilsa Oct 2015 #6
Completely... 3catwoman3 Oct 2015 #7
men “should not tolerate refusal.” then it is called RAPE, you misogynistic piece of filth. niyad Oct 2015 #8
The man is a nut damnedifIknow Oct 2015 #15
Nothing Christian about that. It's rape. sub.theory Oct 2015 #9
That may be true atreides1 Oct 2015 #26
Sure it is. It's written quite plainly in the Chrisian Handbook. cleanhippie Oct 2015 #45
Never fails sub.theory Oct 2015 #50
I don't think you know what that word means. cleanhippie Oct 2015 #59
Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #76
You're so precious when you're angry. cleanhippie Oct 2015 #86
I'm a Christian and perhaps an anti-Christian bigot too. hunter Oct 2015 #81
I'm no fan of religion, Christian or otherwise, Crunchy Frog Oct 2015 #74
Here's a few. There are a lot more. Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2015 #78
I'm familiar with the NT passage. Crunchy Frog Oct 2015 #82
I have a question: Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2015 #84
Have you ever read the thing? It's chock full of rape LeftyMom Oct 2015 #60
He sounds like he has a lot of experience with this kind of wife Generic Other Oct 2015 #10
Close your eyes and think of England. n/t cloudbase Oct 2015 #57
I feel so sorry for their wives. polly7 Oct 2015 #11
what the living fuck d_r Oct 2015 #12
Two words atreides1 Oct 2015 #27
Amen Egnever Oct 2015 #38
I agree. The bible is a sick and twisted manuscript cleanhippie Oct 2015 #46
When I stop shuddering from disgust, you will have to excuse me Marie Marie Oct 2015 #13
Self defense is not illegal and rape is. Kalidurga Oct 2015 #14
I recommended the post simply for exposure. Duppers Oct 2015 #16
makes men sound like dogs doing humping duty Skittles Oct 2015 #17
Hope she spits in his food. dmr Oct 2015 #18
I'd be making him his very own chocolate pie to eat at least once a week notadmblnd Oct 2015 #52
Fundamentalism is the enemy of humanity. Rex Oct 2015 #19
I don't understand damnedifIknow Oct 2015 #20
Maybe...and I am just going out on a limb on this one... Rex Oct 2015 #39
Some invisible being and a book of fiction says so. SammyWinstonJack Oct 2015 #35
ANY kind of religulous fundamentalism hifiguy Oct 2015 #42
"fundymentalpatients". . . I am stealing that one!! niyad Oct 2015 #64
This is like reading a story about nasty aliens from the planet Disgusto. The image of some woman.. BlueJazz Oct 2015 #21
Wives, don't y'all accept that treatment. Talk to an attorney on NCjack Oct 2015 #22
the problem is, that the women in these "marriages" are conditioned that this is acceptable. niyad Oct 2015 #30
Conditioning women to accept this kind of medieval horseshit hifiguy Oct 2015 #43
exactly niyad Oct 2015 #63
as is with being covered from head to toe to "stop the lusting" Skittles Oct 2015 #70
I would turn his face into more than stone... yuiyoshida Oct 2015 #23
I have a sudden urge to kick Larry Solomon in the nuts. Vinca Oct 2015 #24
here is a magnifying glass to help you find them: niyad Oct 2015 #66
ROFL. Thanks - I needed a good laugh. Vinca Oct 2015 #85
God. leftyladyfrommo Oct 2015 #25
My wife closes here eyes-- trumad Oct 2015 #28
Eeep! ProfessorGAC Oct 2015 #29
Solomon insisted that there was “no such thing as marital rape.” YES THERE IS, you disgusting pos. niyad Oct 2015 #31
He will sub.theory Oct 2015 #32
I can't imagine any woman not enjoying it with this buffoon. bullwinkle428 Oct 2015 #33
Sounds like another nut case. nt Quackers Oct 2015 #34
Yup Egnever Oct 2015 #40
Man, these idiots are hung up on sex, aren't they? hamsterjill Oct 2015 #36
To the point of being obsessed damnedifIknow Oct 2015 #37
I don't think a clinical term has yet been invented hifiguy Oct 2015 #41
Rape, war, violence... Mendocino Oct 2015 #44
Simply put these are instructions to rape your wife. What a fucking piece of shit.... Humanist_Activist Oct 2015 #47
its twisted shit like this restorefreedom Oct 2015 #48
Whoever wrote that seems to have the experience to give such advice lunatica Oct 2015 #49
This message was self-deleted by its author misterhighwasted Oct 2015 #51
How Orwellian. "Our duty to the Party". KamaAina Oct 2015 #53
There is something sooo overwhelmingly incongruous here. lpbk2713 Oct 2015 #54
would LOVE to have a chat with the first mrs. solomon niyad Oct 2015 #68
The first Mrs. Solomon must have looked at his face during sex. rug Oct 2015 #55
he had "some" children with??? he doesn't even know how many? niyad Oct 2015 #69
He's a self-aborbed pig. rug Oct 2015 #72
you are insulting pigs niyad Oct 2015 #73
What a horny disgusting pig. bkkyosemite Oct 2015 #56
Not very Christian moosemike Oct 2015 #58
welcome to du. unfortunately, a great many loons claim to be xian. niyad Oct 2015 #67
Actually, it's very Christian. cleanhippie Oct 2015 #88
And this kind of shit is exactly why Jesus isn't returning. Initech Oct 2015 #61
Reason #4,528,981 why you shouldnt go to "christian websites" for sex advice. Warren DeMontague Oct 2015 #62
sicker than sick. ..knr joeybee12 Oct 2015 #65
This is not mainstream Christian ideology. Snobblevitch Oct 2015 #71
Bunch of fucking sickos. 47of74 Oct 2015 #75
That grimace thing HassleCat Oct 2015 #77
Why did God make woman? L. Coyote Oct 2015 #79
Sadly Tree-Hugger Oct 2015 #91
sick. You know his wife has a horrible life Liberal_in_LA Oct 2015 #83
Terrible. Sex advice from people totally unqualified to give sex advice. Calista241 Oct 2015 #87
Okay, I just had to go look at the actual site this is posted on and I noticed right away Rex Oct 2015 #89
"I know that you love your wife..." -not if you take this site's advice, you don't. Gormy Cuss Oct 2015 #90
This man is NOT a pig Tree-Hugger Oct 2015 #92
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