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Kurska

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34. I'm sorry this is incredibly ignorant.

Wed Oct 28, 2015, 12:58 PM

Oct 2015

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100% what that cop did was wrong and a massive overeaction. He deserved to be fired. However, if you have never worked in a public school environment than you don't know what you are talking about. Kids get violent with teachers all the time and teachers are almost legally bound to not be allowed to defend themselves in any way. That is why there are so many cops on campus. A kid could take a swing at you and if you even push them hard you can get in serious trouble. These aren't tiny children we are talking about, these could be nearly fully grown 17 year olds.

Cops need to be in highschools to deal with situations like that, when a student gets violent. It is real easy to say "toughen up" when it isn't your skin in the game.

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The Rude Pundit - Cops in the Classroom: How Pathetic Are We? [View all] meegbear Oct 2015 OP

Children should be allowed to be children. tecelote Oct 2015 #1

Hell, I brought a pistol to school in '72 malthaussen Oct 2015 #45

The last sentence says it all. RedCappedBandit Oct 2015 #2

they've internalized the oppression retrowire Oct 2015 #6

Except it is not entirely correct. ieoeja Oct 2015 #41

So where is Rude incorrect again? I missed that part. 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #73

Where he said the kids sat there and did nothing. ieoeja Oct 2015 #91

No cops in classrooms. nope 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #92

"Do you think they should be? If so, why?" Reading comprehension? It's quite clear what the previous WinkyDink Oct 2015 #106

True. But for some strange reason he asked me. So I thought I would return the favor. n/t ieoeja Oct 2015 #109

The point is that the officer shouldn't have been there in the first place malaise Oct 2015 #3

reacting to modern teenagers... Thespian2 Oct 2015 #4

Been hitting them out of the park a lot lately, but this is a Grand Slam. Pacifist Patriot Oct 2015 #5

I'm guessing NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #10

Very good point Pacifist Patriot Oct 2015 #12

We had police in my high school in the 80s gollygee Oct 2015 #7

In my school too, also in the 80's. Mariana Oct 2015 #43

Maybe they weren't doing roids. Enthusiast Oct 2015 #54

It seems like people have lost their ability to "deal with it." Thav Oct 2015 #8

The cop says the girl hit him? Bluzmann57 Oct 2015 #9

She threw her hands up after he grabbed her by the neck. Chakab Oct 2015 #11

The point is that kids cannot be kids anymore. Most don't have parents that care about them. rladdi Oct 2015 #13

"Most (kids) don't have parents that care about them." alcibiades_mystery Oct 2015 #102

We didn't need a cop. We had Miss Spencer. tavernier Oct 2015 #14

My third grade teacher was like that. malthaussen Oct 2015 #46

I remember my first grade teacher could silence a whole class just by looking at them. n/t deafskeptic Oct 2015 #75

We've taken away too much power from teachers Valoz Oct 2015 #76

In 1963, my 300 year old high school was torn down mountain grammy Oct 2015 #15

I had the misfortune to be walking past the trash cans on my way out of the cafeteria Dustlawyer Oct 2015 #16

And your anecdote doesn't end with "I won my lawsuit" because? WinkyDink Oct 2015 #107

Maybe because I didn't file one! Dustlawyer Oct 2015 #108

I'm a "Justice" person. But hey---if you thought that those who 'cuffed you should get away with it, WinkyDink Oct 2015 #110

white kid vs. black kid Generic Other Oct 2015 #17

but the sheriff insists that race had NOTHING to do with this. niyad Oct 2015 #28

WOW! Paka Oct 2015 #58

+ 1,000,000,000 - Thank You !!! WillyT Oct 2015 #62

Police walk the halls because kids have not been properly taught discipline and respect for teachers vlyons Oct 2015 #18

Just hand the school over to the kids, then Bok_Tukalo Oct 2015 #19

So because the young woman didn't want to give up her cell phone, she has no place in that school? justiceischeap Oct 2015 #22

She also recently lost her mother. silverweb Oct 2015 #74

Not just her mother but her grandmother too justiceischeap Oct 2015 #88

I didn't know about her grandmother. silverweb Oct 2015 #95

She shouldn't have her phone in school Valoz Oct 2015 #78

You've obviously forgotten what it's like to be a kid justiceischeap Oct 2015 #87

Actually, phones are allowed for a reason. silverweb Oct 2015 #96

what an utterly despicable, authoritarian-loving comment. niyad Oct 2015 #29

Okay, Lord of the Flies Bok_Tukalo Oct 2015 #33

Right, looking at a text = Lord of the Flies. n/t gollygee Oct 2015 #39

I certainly won't be missing anything by putting you on ignore. Maedhros Oct 2015 #57

I feel sorry for whatever young people are within your sphere of influence. how very sad for them. niyad Oct 2015 #66

All children have a place in school. Maedhros Oct 2015 #56

No, but they should be in a place where they can't disrupt the education of others Valoz Oct 2015 #79

What a vile point of view. Maedhros Oct 2015 #94

Agreed Elmergantry Oct 2015 #71

The brave girl who protested sammythecat Oct 2015 #20

I guess somebody finally brought enough for everybody... malthaussen Oct 2015 #47

I see "zero tolerance" has been around sammythecat Oct 2015 #103

She was *very* brave. silverweb Oct 2015 #97

I certainly hope so too. sammythecat Oct 2015 #104

That's awful. silverweb Oct 2015 #105

it's an insane fucking world we have made for ourselves. spanone Oct 2015 #21

Slowly boiling the frog gregcrawford Oct 2015 #23

Did you mean Eric Holder? Dont call me Shirley Oct 2015 #50

I did... gregcrawford Oct 2015 #85

Eric Garner.... Dont call me Shirley Oct 2015 #101

would you consider making this its own OP so that we can rec it? niyad Oct 2015 #68

I will... gregcrawford Oct 2015 #86

I posted my response as an OP in Good Reads, since that's where I post my cartoons... gregcrawford Oct 2015 #90

you are most welcome. k and r'd. niyad Oct 2015 #93

Agreed! silverweb Oct 2015 #98

I've thought of it as feudalism as well... gregcrawford Oct 2015 #99

Google images. silverweb Oct 2015 #100

slight correction: a School Resource officer is a cop who failed to get hired as a cop librechik Oct 2015 #24

this abusive asshole is a sheriff's deputy. niyad Oct 2015 #31

*Was* a sheriff's deputy, at least. malthaussen Oct 2015 #48

someone needs to keep an eye on this abusive little prick, see if another force takes him on niyad Oct 2015 #69

You hit it exactly where it is, librechic! Dont call me Shirley Oct 2015 #51

That's not true. Pacifist Patriot Oct 2015 #53

My post was just my humble opinion librechik Oct 2015 #59

Not really Pacifist Patriot Oct 2015 #84

K&R, as usual cyberswede Oct 2015 #25

Can we stop with the doublespeak Kelvin Mace Oct 2015 #26

as usual, rude nailed it! I am so glad that I do not have hostages to fortune in the school niyad Oct 2015 #27

a little background on that abusive officer: niyad Oct 2015 #30

schools are slowly turning into a new arm of the prison system.. Javaman Oct 2015 #32

You forget the cameras in the corridors... malthaussen Oct 2015 #49

Thanks. It's really sad. nt Javaman Oct 2015 #67

Slowly? Alkene Oct 2015 #77

I'm sorry this is incredibly ignorant. Kurska Oct 2015 #34

yep - my wife was a HS teacher - now retired DrDan Oct 2015 #81

Exactly, the problem isn't that there is security Kurska Oct 2015 #83

That's it. Brainwashing. Internalizing the oppression. That's the whole shebang. nt valerief Oct 2015 #35

why is rude always correct? dembotoz Oct 2015 #36

When I went to high school in the early 2000's d_legendary1 Oct 2015 #37

"Schools and Prisons... ymetca Oct 2015 #38

What the fuck does Rude mean "didn't get up and try to stop the cop"?!? ieoeja Oct 2015 #40

How many DUer's remember what their parents expected from you packman Oct 2015 #42

If I did today as a student the things I did when I was a student... malthaussen Oct 2015 #44

This has been going on for some time, but I agree it's progressing passiveporcupine Oct 2015 #55

When I went to kindergarten on Halloween I dressed as a cowgirl, with a cap gun in holster Demeter Oct 2015 #52

When I was about six or seven... malthaussen Oct 2015 #60

My high school in Southern California garnered actual police officers and prison bars on campus 4lbs Oct 2015 #61

This: blackspade Oct 2015 #63

The gun nuts have won, just like the terrorists have won. whereisjustice Oct 2015 #64

Like it says in the OP, Mr.Bill Oct 2015 #65

don't forget that the girl who did film it, at least, and demand that the abusive little prick stop, niyad Oct 2015 #70

There is no excuse for the actions of that officer. And firing him was the right thing to do. YOHABLO Oct 2015 #72

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #80

We feared what our parents would do Facility Inspector Oct 2015 #82

Cops in the classroom did not come from columbine. Jesus Malverde Oct 2015 #89