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Agnosticsherbet

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19. I don't agree. Starting with Bush Sr.

Reply to yardwork (Reply #18)

Wed Oct 28, 2015, 04:34 PM

Oct 2015

Republicans moved right. Moderate Rockefeller Republicans (Fiscal conservative socially liberal) dominated much of the Northeast. Starting with Clinton, they were challenged from their right.

Many of those former Republicans became third way and centrist Democrats. In order to hold onto office Republican appealed to the old John Birch Society folk who had been ejected from the Republican party in the 50's. The father of the Koch brothers was one of the founders of the Birchers. The teaparty is a renamed John Birch society.

Gerrymandering is a process that has been with us from the beginning. Democrats have been involved.

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538: "Maybe Republicans Really Are In Disarray" [View all] Attorney in Texas Oct 2015 OP

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #1

Agreed! Attorney in Texas Oct 2015 #3

This is the best possible news we can get in light of historical trends. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #2

Technically, Gore won in 2000. That would have been 3 Dems in a row. yardwork Oct 2015 #4

Since Bush became President, Bush won. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #15

My point is that the people elected a Democrat three times in a row. yardwork Oct 2015 #17

The "old rules" about the strength or weakness of an incumbent party no longer apply because the Attorney in Texas Oct 2015 #9

Gerrymandering only impacts the House. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #16

I think the poster's point is that gerrymandering allowed the GOP to go extreme. yardwork Oct 2015 #18

I don't agree. Starting with Bush Sr. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #19

First, the "Rockafeller Republicans" weren't really "fiscally conservative socially liberal"). They Attorney in Texas Oct 2015 #20

I take exception to the continued use of the word "conservative" to describe them IDemo Oct 2015 #5

Agreed. Students of government once understood the distinction between conservative and reactionary Attorney in Texas Oct 2015 #8

The have AM Radio, TV news, the WSJ, both houses of Congress, the SCOTUS, maxsolomon Oct 2015 #6

Exactly. Arugula Latte Oct 2015 #7

It's not so much that liberals have moved to the left as society has moved to the left Johonny Oct 2015 #10

It is spooky when Boehner and Ryan are considered too liberal by so many elected congressmonsters Attorney in Texas Oct 2015 #11

Yet this fucked up party controls both the House and Senate FLPanhandle Oct 2015 #12

And the Supreme Court. n/t tabasco Oct 2015 #14

They are good followers and will rally around whatever nutcase tabasco Oct 2015 #13