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Amimnoch

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30. Oh hell no, not the GOP.

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 07:17 AM

Oct 2015

The Democrats. See, therein lies the big problem, not all Democrats are equal. What a Democrat representative in Rural Tennessee will vote on when it comes to a bill is not the same as what a Democrat Representative in Urban California will vote on, is not the same as what a Democrat in resort/vacation spot Florida will vote on.

You guys see Hillary's establishment ties as her weakness, and as the bad thing. I see it as her knowing how to use it to get the most done. Some of it will be compromises, because without compromises she will get... nothing at all, and while it might feel good to think getting nothing done at all is better than a bill of compromise, it's the people that suffer most when nothing at all is done.

Worse, when there is a GOP majority in either the House or the Senate, those compromises have to be even worse because then, you are facing getting nothing at all done vs. getting something done (even if it is not perfect).

The bully pulpit can only go so far, and for it to work at all there's got to at least be a fairly good chunk of congressional support behind it, or it's completely worthless.

Show me a potential congress that will make Senator Sanders vision a possibility.. at all.. and I'll change the logo in my sig.

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Iceland jails crooked Banksters, Sells-off Banks, doles out kr 30,000 to each citizen w/ proceeds. [View all] 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 OP

Now that is bank regulation.. Good for them LiberalArkie Oct 2015 #1

I'm sure Hillary will do the same thing here mindwalker_i Oct 2015 #2

Yes, of course Hillary will .. Cuz she already told them to "CUT IT OUT!" 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #11

And Bernie will be soooooo much more successful. Amimnoch Oct 2015 #15

So you've resigned yourself to voting for that the GOP will allow. cui bono Oct 2015 #17

I dont see them resigning themselves to anything, they seem to me to just be pointing out that cstanleytech Oct 2015 #18

But if you really want to change something you have to vote for the person who is actually going to cui bono Oct 2015 #20

Yes, the only time failure is assured is when LuvNewcastle Oct 2015 #22

What good is trying if Congress is Republican? treestar Oct 2015 #33

It's a hell of a lot better than giving up or settling? cui bono Oct 2015 #38

That's the point, no one can do it with an R Congress treestar Oct 2015 #88

Amen. I'd rather go down swinging than fail like a meek, scared sheep. BlueJazz Oct 2015 #83

Wrong, the one who it really is any of the Republicans if they win. cstanleytech Oct 2015 #86

Oh hell no, not the GOP. Amimnoch Oct 2015 #30

note the meme "Bernie will at least try" as if that matters treestar Oct 2015 #34

So you'd rather have Hillary, who will not try to rein in the banks at all. cui bono Oct 2015 #39

No, I'm voting for Hillary who will reign in the banks. Amimnoch Oct 2015 #46

The Hillary who will "reign in the banks" hifiguy Oct 2015 #57

I absolutely disagree. cui bono Oct 2015 #79

Why would Hillary not try to rein them in treestar Oct 2015 #87

Really? You're siding with Wall Street against the people? cui bono Oct 2015 #90

Could you be more over simplistic? treestar Oct 2015 #91

What a completely disingenuous post. cui bono Oct 2015 #93

Of course it matters because the actual trying helps you to acquire the power and TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #89

Where has this idea come from that Bernie doesn't compromise in order to get things passed? cui bono Oct 2015 #42

It seems like you thesis is it won't happen mindwalker_i Oct 2015 #28

So your solution is to quit? Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #29

not at all. Amimnoch Oct 2015 #31

That's odd. There are Hillary supporters who can't WAIT to purge the Liberals from the party. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #55

The lists are being compiled hifiguy Oct 2015 #58

We're doing the same... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #62

I saw the name Thurgood Marshall, Jr there. hifiguy Oct 2015 #64

Amazing what money does to people. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #85

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #40

YMMV? Kingofalldems Oct 2015 #41

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #43

So what does that have to do with Hillary Clinton? Kingofalldems Oct 2015 #44

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #45

It is fun to pretend Democratic candidates not of our choosing will eventually become fascis LanternWaste Oct 2015 #50

So what is the choice: bvar22 Oct 2015 #59

If that was the actual choice it would be. Amimnoch Oct 2015 #73

So you will choose a known zero, bvar22 Oct 2015 #74

At least Sanders is trying against all odds. Unknown Beatle Oct 2015 #75

I'm sure Hillary will do the same thing here AlbertCat Oct 2015 #23

chicken or the egg. quakerboy Oct 2015 #81

Agreed .... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author A HERETIC I AM Oct 2015 #4

for some it could be... 2naSalit Oct 2015 #8

Thanks for catching that -nt- 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #9

No worries A HERETIC I AM Oct 2015 #27

doesn't matter SandersDem Oct 2015 #14

more than you got, when the U.S. bailed out our banks. ish of the hammer Oct 2015 #21

Not true A HERETIC I AM Oct 2015 #26

That money would have ben better spent ish of the hammer Oct 2015 #53

Yes, it's always best to look at things from certain perspectives... A HERETIC I AM Oct 2015 #54

It's more like $233 AlbertCat Oct 2015 #24

KansDem down-string says it's actually MUCH more than that: $3,512.92 to be exact. 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #66

30,000 ISK = $233.55 Orangepeel Oct 2015 #69

Cool. You were right after all. KansDem agrees with you now. 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #72

Even easier, just type it in to a Google search D Gary Grady Oct 2015 #80

Its a matter of currency. SEK vs ISK quakerboy Oct 2015 #82

They could only do that thanks to the overwhelming power of the Icelandic military Fumesucker Oct 2015 #5

LOL, our military would protect the banks dreamnightwind Oct 2015 #6

Not so sure about the uniformed military. hifiguy Oct 2015 #60

Yes, I more or less said as much dreamnightwind Oct 2015 #71

K & R, need to fix the title though dreamnightwind Oct 2015 #7

done nt 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #10

K&R abelenkpe Oct 2015 #12

I suspect that the next scam devised by Wall Street banksters SDjack Oct 2015 #13

This is nicely documented in Michael Lewis's "Boomerang" erronis Oct 2015 #16

Wow, they are just rubbing it in our faces! Dam you Iceland! Rex Oct 2015 #19

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Oct 2015 #25

If only our country had that kind of integrity! Rex Oct 2015 #35

Very different country with very different laws treestar Oct 2015 #32

For starters, GummyBearz Oct 2015 #36

I wish you'd consider making this an Op because it clearly snagglepuss Oct 2015 #47

I'm a not going to have time today GummyBearz Oct 2015 #49

Iceland is a "different country, it has nothing to do with us and our laws" 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #37

LOL! Rex Oct 2015 #48

Thanks 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #52

ANY country can have laws with integrity. hifiguy Oct 2015 #61

That is exaclty what we need to do. WDIM Oct 2015 #51

I can only offer the traditional Icelandic toast hifiguy Oct 2015 #56

That's $3,512.92!!! KansDem Oct 2015 #63

THANK YOU! AlbertCat up-string was claiming it was only $233 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #65

DAMN!!! KansDem Oct 2015 #70

I'm moving to Iceland. :) Catherine Vincent Oct 2015 #67

K&R!!!! Phlem Oct 2015 #68

That's about $234 rocktivity Oct 2015 #76

Yes, that has already been sorted out up-string. 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #78

Which is $234 more than we got. hobbit709 Oct 2015 #92

Iceland showed us how to do it, all right Warpy Oct 2015 #77

Awesome! Go Iceland! n/t wildbilln864 Oct 2015 #84

You all realise that's the *conservative* solution, don't you? muriel_volestrangler Nov 2015 #94

Jailing Bankster Crooks is "conservative"? 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #95