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guillaumeb

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33. The President will then, only with great reluctance, and after much soul

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 05:23 PM

Oct 2015

searching, commit combat forces. He will, of course, say all this with a very grave look and in a solemn tone. And in very nuanced, elegant sentences. After that, more US troops will be wasted in the endless game of Empire and geopolitics. It has been thus in the US since the Monroe Doctrine first established the US Empire and codified the idea that the US has a right to interfere in the affairs of every country on earth.

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8 times Obama said there would be no ground troops or no combat mission in Syria [View all] morningfog Oct 2015 OP

And now we're going in sakabatou Oct 2015 #1

Of course it will never end. We are sending US troops into fractured 5 year civil war. morningfog Oct 2015 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Oct 2015 #2

LOL. Guess the strategic picture has changed with conditions. Hortensis Oct 2015 #13

BAd news, but thank god the cons are not in charge, take the world of shit we are mired in randys1 Oct 2015 #4

Amen! (Anyone for a nice, bloody Crusade?) :) Hortensis Oct 2015 #17

Sometimes I really think it would be better not to say anything. giftedgirl77 Oct 2015 #56

Rangers? Active? randys1 Oct 2015 #88

Active Army & many of us love deploying. giftedgirl77 Oct 2015 #89

I see wiggle room BeyondGeography Oct 2015 #5

There is no wiggle room. US troops are going into open ended combat in Syria. Period. morningfog Oct 2015 #6

We'll see BeyondGeography Oct 2015 #10

Oh, what is the end date? I must have missed it when Obama reneged on his promise today. morningfog Oct 2015 #14

Are Special Forces special because they wear bunny slippers? K&R Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #7

I don't always agree 100% with everything he does. But this B Calm Oct 2015 #8

But then who will defend our precious oil and gas industries? arcane1 Oct 2015 #12

I guess we'll just have to start using more alternative energy sources. B Calm Oct 2015 #15

Yep. The Russians will be up to their asses in quicksand hifiguy Oct 2015 #23

Those were all before Russia decided to get balls-deep... Blue_Tires Oct 2015 #9

What difference should that make? Unless it's not all purely about TwilightGardener Oct 2015 #37

Why would we fight ISIS? Caretha Oct 2015 #67

not boots...comfortable shoes. he's not wearing his so they are available lol nt msongs Oct 2015 #11

foreign policy never works like that JI7 Oct 2015 #16

If by "that," you mean deploying troops in countries which have not invited us, I agree. morningfog Oct 2015 #18

you ignore the situation in syria JI7 Oct 2015 #20

You think we'll resolve it with 50 commandos? lol. morningfog Oct 2015 #21

no JI7 Oct 2015 #24

So, what will it take? At what cost? morningfog Oct 2015 #25

i don't know JI7 Oct 2015 #28

Actually they need ot do a whole lot LESS Scootaloo Oct 2015 #81

Denmark, America isn't Denmark... Fumesucker Oct 2015 #51

Most people in this benighted idiocracy hifiguy Oct 2015 #63

Is anyone surprised truly? We were TOLD years ago Syria was next to fall. PNAC. Shandris Oct 2015 #19

+1 for the PNAC reminder dreamnightwind Oct 2015 #65

Congratulations! Caretha Oct 2015 #69

Guess what? hifiguy Oct 2015 #22

Repeatedly. n/t MissDeeds Oct 2015 #46

Yeah, shocker. SammyWinstonJack Oct 2015 #48

How is it a lie for him to say that in 2013 and 2014 he was ruling out a military response? pnwmom Oct 2015 #61

Please, just give the unconvincing apologetics a rest. hifiguy Oct 2015 #62

Funny Bernie Supports Obama in Keeping troops in Afghanistan..... still_one Oct 2015 #78

+1000 LittleBlue Oct 2015 #74

I wanna know what happens when Russia bombs the rebels WDIM Oct 2015 #26

Obama and Kerry made clear that the true goal is toppling Assad. morningfog Oct 2015 #27

Exactly Russia is already bombing US backed factions in Syria. WDIM Oct 2015 #32

We toppled Saddam. That didn't work out so well. Wonder why they think toppling Assad Waldorf Oct 2015 #40

They DON'T think it will be different FiveGoodMen Oct 2015 #45

What do you mean? It worked out perfectly Scootaloo Oct 2015 #82

The President will then, only with great reluctance, and after much soul guillaumeb Oct 2015 #33

Then add a front in Ukraine and a front in the South China sea WDIM Oct 2015 #35

I like your spirit, soldier. guillaumeb Oct 2015 #36

Obama is playing a dangerous game that could quickly WDIM Oct 2015 #38

And this is a game that many Presidents play, with no thought for the consequences. guillaumeb Oct 2015 #39

But JFK was one cool customer, hifiguy Oct 2015 #47

He was very smart. As is our current President. guillaumeb Oct 2015 #49

Obama is also a "beneficiary" of the example hifiguy Oct 2015 #50

An example of how far NOT to go? guillaumeb Oct 2015 #52

JFK repeatedly crossed the CIA, hifiguy Oct 2015 #57

OMG I love this post - thank you littlewolf Oct 2015 #54

So, he lied at least 8 times. DocPain Oct 2015 #29

He told the truth every one of those times. He was talking about his then CURRENT decision making, pnwmom Oct 2015 #59

You aren't going to win this discussion, people see only what they want. still_one Oct 2015 #80

Pretty soon 100% of our discretionary tax dollars will be going to the military. valerief Oct 2015 #30

When any country spends over a trillion dollars a year on its war machine, guillaumeb Oct 2015 #31

Great post. nt raccoon Oct 2015 #42

....! KoKo Oct 2015 #64

He lied. Who could have seen that coming? LittleBlue Oct 2015 #34

HE told the truth. He was talking in 2013 and 2014 about responding to events at that time. pnwmom Oct 2015 #60

Then he is an idiot. He should have known where his morningfog Oct 2015 #77

No, the idiots are those who think that circumstances never change pnwmom Oct 2015 #79

What a load of shit. The fundamentals have not changed. morningfog Oct 2015 #86

"What I tell you nine times is true." KamaAina Oct 2015 #41

We have to stop Russia before we run out of terrorists. Octafish Oct 2015 #43

We live in a complex reality The2ndWheel Oct 2015 #44

And in go the Nobel Peace Commandos Fumesucker Oct 2015 #53

I don't remember him ever saying that scscholar Oct 2015 #55

You must not have been paying attention. morningfog Oct 2015 #76

And every single statement was true -- in 2013 and 2014, when he made them. pnwmom Oct 2015 #58

Blah, blah, blah rusty fender Oct 2015 #66

Attacking Democrats as a "cult of personality" on DU makes one sound pnwmom Oct 2015 #68

So any disagreement with ANY Democratic officeholder hifiguy Oct 2015 #70

Do you have a problem with basic logic? pnwmom Oct 2015 #71

You do NOT want to take me on in a battle of logic. hifiguy Oct 2015 #72

LOL. pnwmom Oct 2015 #73

Fair enough... rusty fender Oct 2015 #92

Meanwhile, back in reality, we knew where this was going. morningfog Oct 2015 #75

The hair on fire club does not ... JoePhilly Oct 2015 #93

Putin shit in the punch bowl by showing the US campaign for the farce it was. Jesus Malverde Oct 2015 #83

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Oct 2015 #84

A politician that lied? bigwillq Oct 2015 #85

Spoiler alert: I've seen this movie before. 99Forever Oct 2015 #87

"When my information changes, I alter my conclusions. What do you do, sir?" - John Maynard Keynes. Donald Ian Rankin Oct 2015 #90

The information was clear when Obama stepped morningfog Oct 2015 #94

I'm sure it's more complex libodem Oct 2015 #91