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morningfog

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86. What a load of shit. The fundamentals have not changed.

Reply to pnwmom (Reply #79)

Sat Oct 31, 2015, 07:52 AM

Oct 2015

Obama never had a plan. He just follows the generals into endless war.

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8 times Obama said there would be no ground troops or no combat mission in Syria [View all] morningfog Oct 2015 OP

And now we're going in sakabatou Oct 2015 #1

Of course it will never end. We are sending US troops into fractured 5 year civil war. morningfog Oct 2015 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Oct 2015 #2

LOL. Guess the strategic picture has changed with conditions. Hortensis Oct 2015 #13

BAd news, but thank god the cons are not in charge, take the world of shit we are mired in randys1 Oct 2015 #4

Amen! (Anyone for a nice, bloody Crusade?) :) Hortensis Oct 2015 #17

Sometimes I really think it would be better not to say anything. giftedgirl77 Oct 2015 #56

Rangers? Active? randys1 Oct 2015 #88

Active Army & many of us love deploying. giftedgirl77 Oct 2015 #89

I see wiggle room BeyondGeography Oct 2015 #5

There is no wiggle room. US troops are going into open ended combat in Syria. Period. morningfog Oct 2015 #6

We'll see BeyondGeography Oct 2015 #10

Oh, what is the end date? I must have missed it when Obama reneged on his promise today. morningfog Oct 2015 #14

Are Special Forces special because they wear bunny slippers? K&R Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #7

I don't always agree 100% with everything he does. But this B Calm Oct 2015 #8

But then who will defend our precious oil and gas industries? arcane1 Oct 2015 #12

I guess we'll just have to start using more alternative energy sources. B Calm Oct 2015 #15

Yep. The Russians will be up to their asses in quicksand hifiguy Oct 2015 #23

Those were all before Russia decided to get balls-deep... Blue_Tires Oct 2015 #9

What difference should that make? Unless it's not all purely about TwilightGardener Oct 2015 #37

Why would we fight ISIS? Caretha Oct 2015 #67

not boots...comfortable shoes. he's not wearing his so they are available lol nt msongs Oct 2015 #11

foreign policy never works like that JI7 Oct 2015 #16

If by "that," you mean deploying troops in countries which have not invited us, I agree. morningfog Oct 2015 #18

you ignore the situation in syria JI7 Oct 2015 #20

You think we'll resolve it with 50 commandos? lol. morningfog Oct 2015 #21

no JI7 Oct 2015 #24

So, what will it take? At what cost? morningfog Oct 2015 #25

i don't know JI7 Oct 2015 #28

Actually they need ot do a whole lot LESS Scootaloo Oct 2015 #81

Denmark, America isn't Denmark... Fumesucker Oct 2015 #51

Most people in this benighted idiocracy hifiguy Oct 2015 #63

Is anyone surprised truly? We were TOLD years ago Syria was next to fall. PNAC. Shandris Oct 2015 #19

+1 for the PNAC reminder dreamnightwind Oct 2015 #65

Congratulations! Caretha Oct 2015 #69

Guess what? hifiguy Oct 2015 #22

Repeatedly. n/t MissDeeds Oct 2015 #46

Yeah, shocker. SammyWinstonJack Oct 2015 #48

How is it a lie for him to say that in 2013 and 2014 he was ruling out a military response? pnwmom Oct 2015 #61

Please, just give the unconvincing apologetics a rest. hifiguy Oct 2015 #62

Funny Bernie Supports Obama in Keeping troops in Afghanistan..... still_one Oct 2015 #78

+1000 LittleBlue Oct 2015 #74

I wanna know what happens when Russia bombs the rebels WDIM Oct 2015 #26

Obama and Kerry made clear that the true goal is toppling Assad. morningfog Oct 2015 #27

Exactly Russia is already bombing US backed factions in Syria. WDIM Oct 2015 #32

We toppled Saddam. That didn't work out so well. Wonder why they think toppling Assad Waldorf Oct 2015 #40

They DON'T think it will be different FiveGoodMen Oct 2015 #45

What do you mean? It worked out perfectly Scootaloo Oct 2015 #82

The President will then, only with great reluctance, and after much soul guillaumeb Oct 2015 #33

Then add a front in Ukraine and a front in the South China sea WDIM Oct 2015 #35

I like your spirit, soldier. guillaumeb Oct 2015 #36

Obama is playing a dangerous game that could quickly WDIM Oct 2015 #38

And this is a game that many Presidents play, with no thought for the consequences. guillaumeb Oct 2015 #39

But JFK was one cool customer, hifiguy Oct 2015 #47

He was very smart. As is our current President. guillaumeb Oct 2015 #49

Obama is also a "beneficiary" of the example hifiguy Oct 2015 #50

An example of how far NOT to go? guillaumeb Oct 2015 #52

JFK repeatedly crossed the CIA, hifiguy Oct 2015 #57

OMG I love this post - thank you littlewolf Oct 2015 #54

So, he lied at least 8 times. DocPain Oct 2015 #29

He told the truth every one of those times. He was talking about his then CURRENT decision making, pnwmom Oct 2015 #59

You aren't going to win this discussion, people see only what they want. still_one Oct 2015 #80

Pretty soon 100% of our discretionary tax dollars will be going to the military. valerief Oct 2015 #30

When any country spends over a trillion dollars a year on its war machine, guillaumeb Oct 2015 #31

Great post. nt raccoon Oct 2015 #42

....! KoKo Oct 2015 #64

He lied. Who could have seen that coming? LittleBlue Oct 2015 #34

HE told the truth. He was talking in 2013 and 2014 about responding to events at that time. pnwmom Oct 2015 #60

Then he is an idiot. He should have known where his morningfog Oct 2015 #77

No, the idiots are those who think that circumstances never change pnwmom Oct 2015 #79

What a load of shit. The fundamentals have not changed. morningfog Oct 2015 #86

"What I tell you nine times is true." KamaAina Oct 2015 #41

We have to stop Russia before we run out of terrorists. Octafish Oct 2015 #43

We live in a complex reality The2ndWheel Oct 2015 #44

And in go the Nobel Peace Commandos Fumesucker Oct 2015 #53

I don't remember him ever saying that scscholar Oct 2015 #55

You must not have been paying attention. morningfog Oct 2015 #76

And every single statement was true -- in 2013 and 2014, when he made them. pnwmom Oct 2015 #58

Blah, blah, blah rusty fender Oct 2015 #66

Attacking Democrats as a "cult of personality" on DU makes one sound pnwmom Oct 2015 #68

So any disagreement with ANY Democratic officeholder hifiguy Oct 2015 #70

Do you have a problem with basic logic? pnwmom Oct 2015 #71

You do NOT want to take me on in a battle of logic. hifiguy Oct 2015 #72

LOL. pnwmom Oct 2015 #73

Fair enough... rusty fender Oct 2015 #92

Meanwhile, back in reality, we knew where this was going. morningfog Oct 2015 #75

The hair on fire club does not ... JoePhilly Oct 2015 #93

Putin shit in the punch bowl by showing the US campaign for the farce it was. Jesus Malverde Oct 2015 #83

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Oct 2015 #84

A politician that lied? bigwillq Oct 2015 #85

Spoiler alert: I've seen this movie before. 99Forever Oct 2015 #87

"When my information changes, I alter my conclusions. What do you do, sir?" - John Maynard Keynes. Donald Ian Rankin Oct 2015 #90

The information was clear when Obama stepped morningfog Oct 2015 #94

I'm sure it's more complex libodem Oct 2015 #91