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TomCADem

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Sat Oct 31, 2015, 11:14 PM Oct 2015

Salon - "CNBC did ask substantive questions. That’s why Republicans are mad" [View all]

The most amazing thing about the whole Republican debate debacle is the notion that CNBC is liberal. I guess when you are getting millions in corporate campaign support, the truth really is optional.

http://www.salon.com/2015/10/29/cnbc_did_ask_substantive_questions_thats_why_republicans_are_mad/

Both the liberals and conservatives chattering after the Republican debate on CNBC Wednesday night agree on one thing: CNBC did a terrible job running the debate. Liberals are angry because the moderators didn’t correct the astounding number of flagrant lies told by the candidates, nor did they do a very good job at cracking skulls when the candidates violated the rules. Conservatives are mad because, in their opinion, the moderators didn’t ask substantive questions.

The difference between the liberal complaint and the conservative one is that the conservative one is steaming nonsense. If you look at the actual record, it’s clear that what Republicans are really objecting to is that CNBC didn’t give the candidates a tongue bath. The “media bias” gambit is, as it has always been, an attempt by conservatives to shut substantive discourse down, not to encourage it.

Republicans really want you to believe that they were interested in substantive questions but didn’t get them. Reince Priebus, the chairman for the RNC, released a tsk-ing statement that claimed that, “Our diverse field of talented and exceptionally qualified candidates did their best to share ideas for how to reinvigorate the economy,” but somehow the moderators weren’t letting them.

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When you look at the big picture, the pattern emerges: Republicans are angry at CNBC for daring to challenge their candidates. The fact that Republican voters eat it up when candidates act victimized by journalists daring to ask them questions shouldn’t really be surprising. Republican voters want Republican candidates to win elections. When the focus is on the issues, Democrats tend to do better than Republicans.
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It's disgusting that US citizens allow the MSM to conduct these "debates". delrem Oct 2015 #1
The MSM is nothing but ZX86 Nov 2015 #8
they are owned by major corporations - why is anyone surprised that they DrDan Nov 2015 #14
True and disgusting. BUT, let's get back to angry GOP viewer reactions. Hortensis Nov 2015 #16
I agree - those were valid questions and it was good to see them squirm at their DrDan Nov 2015 #17
I agree too. But are those childish questions the ones the noisy right is complaining about? Hortensis Nov 2015 #24
Doesn't really matter what the Republicans are whining about. ZX86 Nov 2015 #25
We chewed this bone after the first disgraceful reality-show-type Hortensis Nov 2015 #27
Cruz had rehearsed his tirade after seeing how well it came off from Bernie in the Dem debate. world wide wally Oct 2015 #2
Now that's... weird. delrem Oct 2015 #3
Cruz was correct. ZX86 Nov 2015 #9
Cruz did duck the question though. And the clowns DirkGently Nov 2015 #31
No. The media created the clown show. ZX86 Nov 2015 #37
The responses, not the questions, were clownish. DirkGently Nov 2015 #38
You are proving my point. ZX86 Nov 2015 #40
Really? How did CNBC make Rubio lie or Cruz dissemble? DirkGently Nov 2015 #41
Doesn't matter how. ZX86 Nov 2015 #45
Bizarro World colsohlibgal Oct 2015 #4
+1 gvstn Nov 2015 #6
The liberal bias charge is complete nonsense. ZX86 Nov 2015 #10
Anyone who thinks CNBC is even moderate doesn't watch it, plain and simple. HughBeaumont Nov 2015 #19
AMEN! I used to watch it muted, because they are SOOOO Pathwalker Nov 2015 #46
Salon - bs 840high Oct 2015 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 Nov 2015 #12
Stop making excuses for Main Stream Media - They are Horrible ZX86 Nov 2015 #7
...^ that 840high Nov 2015 #29
Dr. Carson's snake oil experiments are not relevant? DirkGently Nov 2015 #33
Dr. Carson's discredited MLM marketing scam ZX86 Nov 2015 #39
Carson's sale of fake medicine is irrelevant? DirkGently Nov 2015 #43
Carson is an idiot. He should be called out for his inept business pratices. ZX86 Nov 2015 #47
happens when things get incestuous. pansypoo53219 Nov 2015 #11
Asking about Fantasy Football was idiotic oberliner Nov 2015 #13
It's so bad as to almost be actionable. There's no COLGATE4 Nov 2015 #18
Agreed oberliner Nov 2015 #20
CNBC did ask substantive questions? ZX86 Nov 2015 #15
That CNBC is under attack by cons, but not Fox or CNN, which really were clown shows, reveals Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #26
Exactly! ZX86 Nov 2015 #28
Republicans are whining "bias, " so let's assume it was all biased. Vinca Nov 2015 #21
Not the point. ZX86 Nov 2015 #23
Not really. Just prior to Ted Cruz's grandstanding, he was asked an important Vinca Nov 2015 #32
You're really missing the point. ZX86 Nov 2015 #34
No hand wringing about Hilliary's email/Benghazi questions? ZX86 Nov 2015 #36
Even more disgusting that you need a paid cable subscription to see the debates. Even if you do tblue37 Nov 2015 #22
Here's a modest proposal - no audience! hatrack Nov 2015 #30
Bad proposal. ZX86 Nov 2015 #35
The repiggies would have preferred it to have been scripted. lpbk2713 Nov 2015 #42
Those are the easiest questions to answer... kentuck Nov 2015 #44
k UTUSN Nov 2015 #48
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