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In reply to the discussion: Medicare for all would cost more than what we are paying now. We need to stop avoiding this fact. [View all]Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)1. premiums for everyone, including seniors, would be lower as instead of medicare being assigned the single most expensive cohort, old people, it would, by covering everyone, be including huge numbers of healthy people who would not be using expensive services. Your calculations start out bogus.
2. when calculating the cost you just choose to ignore the zeroing out of employer based health insurance costs - both employee and employer premiums and employee out of pocket expenses. Somehow that savings just doesn't make it into your calculations. Odd that you ignore that.
3. you insist on keeping medicare exactly like it is while expanding the membership. That is a great assumption if one wants to argue that it would cost too much, but while we are reforming medicare to cover everyone there is no reason we can't fix the worst parts of the current system. Like for example the prescription benefit disaster, and other idiocies.