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tech3149

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60. I'm not sure I understand your perspective

Mon Nov 2, 2015, 08:21 PM

Nov 2015

I am truly scared by the other drivers on the road and I am the worst passenger. I am critical of almost everything a driver does or does not do that I see as a problem. That line from the song doesn't even get half way to the problem.
Both of those things are pretty easy to do and are well within the capabilities of most people.
My Mom was the prime example of who should not drive. She was very smart and had physical skills that I couldn't match but she was unsafe behind the wheel.
I think that the rules of the road generally don't challenge peoples skills and therin lies the problem. I have pushed my abilities by trying to drive above my limits.
I know! It's not really safe to do but if you don't exercise your skills you can never expand them.
I'm pretty sure most people have the cognitive abilities and physical skills to be excellent drivers, they just don't challenge themselves and don't recognize the harm they do by not doing their best.

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Self Driving Cars Have A Higher Accident Rate [View all] JonathanRackham Nov 2015 OP

"Even though they haven't been at fault," Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #1

Which can also mean humans are better at avoiding accidents Major Nikon Nov 2015 #10

Shit, I avoided three accidents just driving over to pick someone up this morning. NBachers Nov 2015 #12

I remember hearing that on NPR FLson Nov 2015 #58

It sounds like the solution is more self driving cars Travis_0004 Nov 2015 #2

The article clearly states the self-driving cars Codeine Nov 2015 #3

Totally true, but somewhat misleading. Donald Ian Rankin Nov 2015 #18

I don't think avoidance, per se, is the problem actually. Chan790 Nov 2015 #36

it's because humans can anticipate an accident and will react to avoid it Demonaut Nov 2015 #4

Humans caused these accidents, not self-driving cars. LisaL Nov 2015 #6

yes.I look at all cars positions and when I can, gain eyecontact with drivers, can a comp do that? Demonaut Nov 2015 #7

Nope, 10 years out these cars will save 1000s of lifes, humans are the issue. Nt Logical Nov 2015 #40

In the future, self-driving cars and smart guns will save tens of thousands of lives each year. SecularMotion Nov 2015 #52

I 100% agree. I look so forward to the self driving cars, total geek. nt Logical Nov 2015 #55

sure...but only when they become the dominate means of travel Demonaut Nov 2015 #53

Nope, they will save life's from day one. nt Logical Nov 2015 #54

yes lives but will be involved in more accidents Demonaut Nov 2015 #59

People will adjust quickly once they start seeing them. I think a major issue now is rubber necking. Logical Nov 2015 #61

true Demonaut Nov 2015 #62

And if these cars would have had Humans they would have reacted and avoided the accidents krawhitham Nov 2015 #8

While they were texting? Fumesucker Nov 2015 #9

Depends how many friends the self-driving car has if it texts. Curiosity rover texts all the time Katashi_itto Nov 2015 #27

Really? Kelvin Mace Nov 2015 #26

That's an easy one, program the cars to accelerate on yellow like real drivers do Fumesucker Nov 2015 #30

At a stop sign? When stopping for a turn? Kelvin Mace Nov 2015 #31

Human drivers don't drive like the autonomous vehicles that obey all traffic rules Fumesucker Nov 2015 #33

I think the next thing that self-driving cars will demonstrate... MindPilot Nov 2015 #42

They are quite predictable Kelvin Mace Nov 2015 #44

I have about 250k miles on motorcycles, quite a bit on bicycles and now have about 10k on an ebike Fumesucker Nov 2015 #49

You have been a very careful rider Kelvin Mace Nov 2015 #51

I think you're dead on there. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2015 #56

Humans plow into self-driving cars at an alarming rate Recursion Nov 2015 #5

If the self driving cars use ethanol are they driving under the influence? DJ13 Nov 2015 #11

Color me surprised. WillowTree Nov 2015 #13

The self driving cars never have hit another car. Nt Logical Nov 2015 #16

Yet....... WillowTree Nov 2015 #19

Lol, ok. But 100s will die today from humans driving. Nt Logical Nov 2015 #29

Looks to me that they're good at not hitting other people, but not so good at avoiding bad drivers. RichVRichV Nov 2015 #14

Hard to avoid a bad driver who rear-ends you Kelvin Mace Nov 2015 #45

Did you even read the stats? Lol, I assume not nt Logical Nov 2015 #15

Humans are very adept at running into cars stopped at a traffic light killbotfactory Nov 2015 #17

The human driver will be eliminated sooner than you think. Position yourself for that reality. Darb Nov 2015 #20

Actually, long term, Kelvin Mace Nov 2015 #46

This will remain true until cars are mostly autonomous. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2015 #21

There is the 'no shit' story of the decade. Nt arely staircase Nov 2015 #22

Agreed, human drivers should be eliminated asap. Darb Nov 2015 #23

I'm going to make a guess here, the autonomous cars are obeying the rules of the road strictly Fumesucker Nov 2015 #24

You win...well, something. Chan790 Nov 2015 #37

As my old drivers ed teacher said, it doesn't matter if you're doing everything right... Lancero Nov 2015 #48

hit and run post. nt Javaman Nov 2015 #25

Lulz! +1 Glassunion Nov 2015 #28

As a former road warrior, motorsport enthusiast, and tech worker tech3149 Nov 2015 #32

Driving itself isn't particularly difficult under good conditions on a clear, traffic free road Fumesucker Nov 2015 #34

I think you're pretty much of the same mindset as me tech3149 Nov 2015 #39

there's also a big change in neighborhood structure and driving rates MisterP Nov 2015 #35

It's an interesting viewpoint...but the first point is wrong and the rest is dependent upon it. Chan790 Nov 2015 #38

These cars are much less fallible than human drivers? tech3149 Nov 2015 #41

A really good human driver, a true expert? No the cars aren't that good yet Fumesucker Nov 2015 #50

I'm not sure I understand your perspective tech3149 Nov 2015 #60

I vote end human driving. The advantages are just too big. Darb Nov 2015 #43

Once they are all driverless cars they can tailgate mere inches away Fumesucker Nov 2015 #57

Luckily the algorithms used learn from each Warren Stupidity Nov 2015 #47