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WillyT

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69. Not Necessarily...

Sat May 26, 2012, 03:03 PM

May 2012

In tennis, this sort of thing is called an "unforced error".

Cory Booker just did it just the other day.

There is NO NEED to open your mouth and say something so monumentally stupid. Something that encourages your enemies, and depresses your friends.

Unless... you are trying that tired old BS of (as I heard a pundit put it this morning) "softening the ground" for what they think is an upcoming loss.

Instead... you say, over and over, "We will be in Wisconsin next week, and we intend to win BOTH the June recall, and the November Presidential Election."

The fact that these people have been in politics as long as they have, and attained the positions they hold... leads me to wonder WTF is going on.

But to answer your question, LOL...

Is it possible that Walker could win Wisconsin in June AND Obama win Wisconsin in November...

sure it is.

But I have to wonder why ???

WHY would the state who voted for Scott Walker in June, vote for Obama in November?

And why be so casual about the various possibilities?

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Debbie Wasserman Schultz: ‘There Aren’t Going To Be Any Repercussions’ If Walker Wins In Wisconsin' [View all] WillyT May 2012 OP

WTF? 3waygeek May 2012 #1

Context is everything: here is her ENTIRE video Interview SunsetDreams May 2012 #39

+1000 spanone May 2012 #103

Get her THE FUCK out of that position bigdarryl May 2012 #127

But really, what do you expect her to say? senseandsensibility May 2012 #2

She's Spread Too Thin... KharmaTrain May 2012 #11

Debbie doesn't like to attack Republicans, she prefers to get along with them. sabrina 1 May 2012 #18

Good point! Someone start a petition! tcaudilllg May 2012 #31

There is a petition which had over 100,000 signatures more than a week ago. I think that might sabrina 1 May 2012 #59

REALLY?????? DMNinFL May 2012 #45

Yes, she's been attacking them lately. As for West, you would need to be insane to NOT sabrina 1 May 2012 #64

"She has done nothing to help them" Please watch the FULL Video SunsetDreams May 2012 #47

Yea, well, what do you say to those who say "She hasn't done enough lately to help them"? AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #104

Much Of The Money Has Come From SuperPacs... KharmaTrain May 2012 #50

I think most of us would like to get along with them cstanleytech May 2012 #67

Totally agree. WI gets what it deserves, I feel sorry for our people, but then its how it is. Katashi_itto May 2012 #19

It means heads are gonna roll in Wisconsin Dem circles. tcaudilllg May 2012 #28

It means we need HOWARD DEAN back. calimary May 2012 #60

You could say this.. sendero May 2012 #86

Yeah, no kidding, sendero. calimary May 2012 #108

Yep... Cenk Of TYT Fame Describes The Democrats As... WillyT May 2012 #110

+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! WillyT May 2012 #109

Rachel Madow Agrees With You... WillyT May 2012 #30

I saw Maddow speak in Milwaukee shcrane71 May 2012 #123

If they got a win now in Wisconsin, it'd help in November muriel_volestrangler May 2012 #33

Flavor Of The Moment... KharmaTrain May 2012 #43

Over 1.1 million voted for Walker in 2010 muriel_volestrangler May 2012 #79

40% Of Union Households Voted For Walker in 2010... KharmaTrain May 2012 #84

It's not even so much what we'd expect her to say. It's what we expected her to DO. calimary May 2012 #70

We will fight tooth and nail to bring this man down.... Hotler May 2012 #129

Jesus Debbie... trumad May 2012 #3

I always thought she was great goclark May 2012 #10

She's as great as Harold Ford, Jr, the last chairman of the now-defunct DLC AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #20

Not so much lark May 2012 #34

That is mousse not moose no foul though HangOnKids May 2012 #63

Two things: "Jesus"....really? You say that to a Jewish person? And "moose"? As in Bullwinkle? nt Honeycombe8 May 2012 #90

LOL---sorry trumad May 2012 #95

Jesus Honeycombe8... Really... REALLY ??? WillyT May 2012 #98

It's a Presidential year and Romney is raising more $ than expected. dkf May 2012 #4

disgusting. bbgrunt May 2012 #5

I'm a little less impressed every time she speaks. Scuba May 2012 #6

Motherfucking A. lonestarnot May 2012 #7

The DNC will never beat the GOP as long as they cave in on local elections DJ13 May 2012 #8

+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! WillyT May 2012 #9

He gets it: "Howard Dean's PAC says it's 'all in' for recall, focusing on Dane County" muriel_volestrangler May 2012 #40

Thank You For That !!! WillyT May 2012 #61

AMEN! calimary May 2012 #71

You are exactly right. The DNC has never learned this lesson. Tennessee Gal May 2012 #27

The DNC might not be on our side. nt ladjf May 2012 #42

Absolutely! AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #52

Oh BS! SunsetDreams May 2012 #54

Whose side? It may be the side of the anti-union, wage lowering, "free-trade" agreements. AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #106

Follow the $$$$$$ woo me with science May 2012 #74

Duh, that's a big part of the strategy lark May 2012 #38

Nobody is caving, so can you just stop the nonsense. RBInMaine May 2012 #46

If the Democratic Party can't be effective in Wisconsin, where can they succeed? radhika May 2012 #57

There is another "free-trade" (ie, lowest-wage) agreement in the works. Could it be that AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #105

I am all for a Dean-esque 50-state strategy Proud Liberal Dem May 2012 #77

Jesus Christmas ProfessionalLeftist May 2012 #12

Giving credence once again... 99Forever May 2012 #13

Money AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #21

I don't think it's that bad. I hate to say it but there IS a chance he will win K8-EEE May 2012 #14

The correct answer is "Go out and beat Walker". n/t EFerrari May 2012 #26

Really?? ladym55 May 2012 #15

Ms. Wasserman Schultz is clueless if she does not think that the PufPuf23 May 2012 #16

Ever since Dean left, our fortunes have suffered. tcaudilllg May 2012 #24

Agree - I don't get DNC stategy nt PufPuf23 May 2012 #96

I like her a lot but I think she's dead wrong here aint_no_life_nowhere May 2012 #17

For whom?? Lifelong Protester May 2012 #22

What an idiot. tcaudilllg May 2012 #23

Barrett requested a mere $500K after winning the primary, and now some are repeating AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #25

The DNC DID give WI $1.4 million for the recall effort. AtomicKitten May 2012 #36

You've provided a perfect example. Thank you. AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #51

Barrett *IS* the Democratic campaign in Wisconsin. AtomicKitten May 2012 #55

No. Barrett is the Democratic candidate for the governorship. Barrett is not the Democratic campaign AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #68

yet again you've misrepresented the facts -- AtomicKitten May 2012 #87

When a house fire is underway in one community and the fire chief asks a nearby fire department to AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #101

LOL !!! WillyT May 2012 #102

The DNC is sitting this one out. hay rick May 2012 #29

Don't rely on DNC to run state races. tcaudilllg May 2012 #35

Wisconsin is a referendum on a national issue- smelly working people. hay rick May 2012 #76

30+ million union dollars spent in WI for recalls for nothing n/t IamK May 2012 #32

Talk about being tone deaf Botany May 2012 #37

Or, "We're behind you." Far behind. AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #53

The DNC has been worthless since Howard Dean left proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #41

She didn't fail to help Wisconsin...See the video SunsetDreams May 2012 #48

For Christ sake, she is just saying Obama WILL STILL WIN the NATIONAL election. So just cut the RBInMaine May 2012 #44

I think so too, but....... AverageJoe90 May 2012 #89

They have put in $1.4 million in $ and organization, so enough of this LIE. Hyperbolic people here RBInMaine May 2012 #49

This is a national matter. This is the first time that ANYONE stood up to the Koch Brothers sabrina 1 May 2012 #92

+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! WillyT May 2012 #97

What do you think she should have said: that a Walker's win means that Romney will win. Mass May 2012 #56

You Must Have Missed THIS: WillyT May 2012 #58

So you think that if Walker wins that Obama will lose? SunsetDreams May 2012 #62

Not Necessarily... WillyT May 2012 #69

I really don't see that she said something so "monumentally stupid" when you look at context SunsetDreams May 2012 #72

Well SD... You Like To Think, As Do I, And I Applaud You For That... But... WillyT May 2012 #80

Maybe you should Edit your OP to reflect context because afterall SunsetDreams May 2012 #81

Aren't the Wisconsin Democrats running the guy who already lost to Walker? Democat May 2012 #126

Yeah just like thre were no "repercussions" Riley18 May 2012 #65

Zero state strategy rucky May 2012 #66

True to form. She is corporate-owned, woo me with science May 2012 #73

Those who are corporate-owned undoubtedly support the latest anti-union "free-trade" agreement AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #107

I again live in a 'right to work' state-- txoctodem May 2012 #114

"right to work" -- They do have a way with words. AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #120

I never liked Wasserman Schultz, even before she was DNC chair. Alexander May 2012 #75

Me either....i will never forgive her for that... truebrit71 May 2012 #131

What!!! Jake2413 May 2012 #78

What if ? kentuck May 2012 #82

Remove her. Skidmore May 2012 #83

The one thing Bill Clinton taught me... The empressof all May 2012 #85

She's fucking delussional! nt Raine May 2012 #88

Perhaps they are buying up all the commercial time... kentuck May 2012 #91

Debbie honey.............. Swede Atlanta May 2012 #93

Also, other states will be emboldened... kentuck May 2012 #94

Y0ou know...this DWS Discussion is just like that climate debate graph Drew Richards May 2012 #99

The people of Wisconsin know the facts julian09 May 2012 #100

I hope she is right but txoctodem May 2012 #111

fuck her.... she's another phony democrat fascisthunter May 2012 #112

Your headline is a bit misleading. boxman15 May 2012 #113

Not My Headline... Talk To TPM... WillyT May 2012 #115

My mistake! boxman15 May 2012 #116

What are you on, Debbie? And can I have some? WhoIsNumberNone May 2012 #117

Come to westside Detroit, make some friends FrodosPet May 2012 #124

She's a DINO DLCer. Odin2005 May 2012 #118

You may wonder, "What's her voting record?" AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #119

Instead Of Neo-Liberals... I Call Them Nero-Liberals... WillyT May 2012 #121

And stuff their pockets. Nobody leaves office and goes home like Harry Truman. AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #125

It's the 39% of union members in WI that plan to vote for Walker AtomicKitten May 2012 #122

Admirable deaniac21 May 2012 #128

She was a terrible choice to head the DNC.. truebrit71 May 2012 #130