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bbmykel

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190. No, I won't

Tue Nov 3, 2015, 03:58 PM

Nov 2015

Senator Clinton forfeited my support when she chose political expediency over leadership and voted for the Iraq war (as, of course did Kerry and Edwards--not a glorious moment for Democratic "leaders&quot . Would Howard Dean have even been possible if any one of them had stood up and lead an opposition?

What I have learned since 2004 via places like DU but mostly the Democratic Party itself is that I am no longer Democrat. I would have once believed that was unthinkable. What I am is a Liberal, and proud of it. I will support individual candidates (mostly Democrats, I'm sure) that are proud liberals. I don't owe anyone blind allegiance.

Now, before anyone gets too riled up, let me point out that my vote virtually counts for nothing. I live in California and any Democratic nominee for President that is fighting for California has probably already lost so I do have the luxury of "voting my conscience". If I was in a swing state, I honestly would have a tougher time figuring out what to do.

Also, once I realized that I really wasn't a Democrat anymore (after all Rahm Emanuel called people like me "retards" or some such thing so it's not like I was wanted), I really do try to respect this space and not post much, but I did want to answer what sounded like a sincere question.

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Are there really people on DU who won't vote for the Democratic candidate if [View all] BigDemVoter Nov 2015 OP

Personally - I Am Tired Of Being An Afterthought To The DNC DWS DLC Third-Way Party Establishment cantbeserious Nov 2015 #1

You're tired of being an after-thought, so your response is to position yourself ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #92

If you promise to vote for the democratic nominee you deleverage yourself with the DNC n/t JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #94

And when you proudly announce that you will not vote for the Democratic nominee ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #125

And probably somoene who wont immediately be deeply harmed by rightwing randys1 Nov 2015 #184

Democrats have a choice to make virtualobserver Nov 2015 #202

All of the Democratic candidates will move the needle to the left. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #205

Hillary is just barely doing it now, with a full array of caveats virtualobserver Nov 2015 #208

And you know this because ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #210

this ain't my first time at the rodeo? virtualobserver Nov 2015 #218

".....except the Lord didn't mention Hillary by name..." merrily Nov 2015 #219

poster monogamy would be pretty boring virtualobserver Nov 2015 #230

How does promising not to vote for the nominee leverage yourself with the DNC? n/t pnwmom Nov 2015 #301

The scenario you describe does not leverage yourself with the DNC JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #304

I Will Vote My Conscience - If That Puts People At Risk - That Validates The Lesser Evil Argument cantbeserious Nov 2015 #113

I'm certain you will ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #127

One No Longer Needs Or Solicits Your Moralizing cantbeserious Nov 2015 #155

WE will work overtime to make up for your selfish act. randys1 Nov 2015 #185

What Is More Selfish - Knowingly Electing A War Hawk And Corporatist cantbeserious Nov 2015 #204

Or allowing a con president to nominate SC justice who allows killing Women in alleys randys1 Nov 2015 #224

More like working overtime... AOR Nov 2015 #232

I will let you insult me all you want, but here is what you need to do after you insult me randys1 Nov 2015 #234

Calling out the political impotency... AOR Nov 2015 #237

Thanks for that link. hifiguy Nov 2015 #238

Cheers hifi... AOR Nov 2015 #244

LOL ... Then, the IGNORE feature is your friend. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #187

So many people around here are in complete denial of the hifiguy Nov 2015 #139

That is like, so deep, man. tabasco Nov 2015 #148

I do not demand utopia. hifiguy Nov 2015 #150

And you think helping get Trump or Rubio elected (which is what you will be doing) will solve your Squinch Nov 2015 #226

The difference between Trump, Rubio or any of the Repigs hifiguy Nov 2015 #236

My current feelings as well.... ccinamon Nov 2015 #310

So, you want our society destroyed so that it can be rebuilt. tabasco Nov 2015 #313

What exactly will BE the difference hifiguy Nov 2015 #323

Ugh. There is so much idiocy in this, and yet I feel certain that there is nothing to be gained Squinch Nov 2015 #325

Explain to me just how the country has not hifiguy Nov 2015 #327

As I said, I'm pretty sure you are a lost cause and not worth the effort. Squinch Nov 2015 #328

Without going into details that are none of your business hifiguy Nov 2015 #330

Sorry about your troubles, but things will definitely become worse under a Republican. Squinch Nov 2015 #331

I'm not in denial and my vote 840high Nov 2015 #267

Lessig dropped out of the race before I even realized he was running struggle4progress Nov 2015 #225

With Thanks To The DNC DWS DLC Third-Way Adherents In The Party Establishment cantbeserious Nov 2015 #293

Note Larry quit.....but perhaps you'll get a channe to vote for him as an independant. Historic NY Nov 2015 #269

The Democrats Did Not Have An Undercard So Ones Argument Is Flawed From Inception cantbeserious Nov 2015 #289

If Bernie doesn't win, I'll hold my nose and vote for Hillary. 100%. WhoIsNumberNone Nov 2015 #2

Whomever wins the Primary--It's better a D gets in the White House than an R. nt TheBlackAdder Nov 2015 #179

Well there will be a Democratic nominee... MattSh Nov 2015 #3

Actually no....Hillary IS a Democrat VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #42

The problem is that Now fredamae Nov 2015 #53

Says the person voting for the person UNAFFILIATED to a party....yet NOT winning! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #55

I'm saying use caution fredamae Nov 2015 #59

Been a Democrat all my life... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #66

That's pretty obtuse. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2015 #74

Not obtuse at all... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #82

Congratulations. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2015 #122

But THIS time....we are not all Democrats are we? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #140

So. Fucking. What. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2015 #161

So fucking what??? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #164

Yes. So fucking what. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2015 #197

WTF are you talking about? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #199

I'm talking about you continuing to say stupid things. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2015 #250

I do... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #251

On the contrary Act_of_Reparation Nov 2015 #261

+1, excellent point. /nt Marr Nov 2015 #314

Been a Dem since 1959. fredamae Nov 2015 #80

Yes actually it does..... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #83

Imo-You are placing way too much fredamae Nov 2015 #87

Well funny.....we have been doing that for like what? Forever... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #88

The Registration Archive Stats in my state fredamae Nov 2015 #93

in your state.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #102

Yes, In Blue Oregon fredamae Nov 2015 #103

Oh Oregon VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #141

Disparaging the state of Oregon is a long way from whatever your point was. rhett o rick Nov 2015 #216

You ain't just a-woofin hifiguy Nov 2015 #170

Well, folks that hold similar opinions fredamae Nov 2015 #89

and why should the party care about what those folks think of them? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #90

Will they sing the Same song fredamae Nov 2015 #97

Yes they will..... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #98

Have great day...Great chatting with you n/t fredamae Nov 2015 #99

wish I could say the same.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #100

No worries. :) n/t fredamae Nov 2015 #101

And why should they care if we vote? demwing Nov 2015 #121

Defintion of words Doubledee Nov 2015 #138

It does say for the purpose of ELECTING Democrats.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #193

Is it? Doubledee Nov 2015 #227

Yes....read the TOS....its not secret at all...in black and white VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #233

I don't know how I missed your post alcina Nov 2015 #201

You were not there on St. Crispin's Day, were you? This site, DU, was founded to elect DEMOCRATS Hekate Nov 2015 #248

So what is a democrat? alcina Nov 2015 #191

If you are not committed to voting for whomever WE Democrats select in our Primary election VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #192

You are partially correct alcina Nov 2015 #213

No...I am correct... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #214

Independent equals undependable? Doubledee Nov 2015 #229

Have you read the definition? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #231

a bunch of words Doubledee Nov 2015 #312

This message was self-deleted by its author ChiciB1 Nov 2015 #118

...^ that 840high Nov 2015 #268

So you won't vote for Bernie in the general? Quackers Nov 2015 #56

Yes I am saying....and so is HE by the way VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #67

I just wanted to verify. You won't vote for him. Quackers Nov 2015 #71

did I say that? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #72

That's what I was trying to clarify. Quackers Nov 2015 #76

but I still vote for O'Malley before Sanders.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #78

Don't count me out just yet, VR. Quackers Nov 2015 #79

Actually yes....I am.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #86

You're right! Go Hillary 2008!!!! Wait a sec.......lol Quackers Nov 2015 #105

Yep Go Hillary 2016! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #107

Party blah blah groupthink blah blah rhetoric blah demwing Nov 2015 #120

Do you really think that .gif of total arrogance really helps YOUR candidate? Really? I'm sure Purveyor Nov 2015 #128

An honest question Alittleliberal Nov 2015 #129

No because there is no clause that says that they MUST be to be on the Democratic Primary VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #194

In name alone. hifiguy Nov 2015 #144

Hillary is not a Democrat AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #245

WTF??? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #247

agreed. calling oneself a dem does not make it so. nt restorefreedom Nov 2015 #181

In the General Election, I will vote for that candidate which best represents my views. Maedhros Nov 2015 #4

Well said. And none of the republican candidates comes anywhere near 'representing my views'. pampango Nov 2015 #20

It is conceivable I could vote Repubican HassleCat Nov 2015 #176

As a Clinton supporter 4now Nov 2015 #5

Absolutely, yes, there are. DFW Nov 2015 #6

Some people are tired of Rebkeh Nov 2015 #7

I No Longer Vote Against - I Only Vote For - This Go Round There May Nothing To Vote For cantbeserious Nov 2015 #299

I would like to see Bernie as the candidate, but will vote for Hillary if she ends up being the smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #8

"The lesser of two evils" is still evil. eom Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #9

The perfect is the enemy of the good. No Vested Interest Nov 2015 #10

Sanders isn't perfect. But Clinton is no good. n/t Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #11

My sentiment as well peacebird Nov 2015 #117

Exactly. hifiguy Nov 2015 #147

yep 840high Nov 2015 #272

Just get it cut. We will measure it later. jtuck004 Nov 2015 #15

Thats a major fuckup Go Vols Nov 2015 #91

When I hear the bs "The perfect is the enemy of the good", this comes to mind. jtuck004 Nov 2015 #109

When I hear "the perfect is the enemy of the good" is b.s., this comes to mind... BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #256

Amen. 840high Nov 2015 #274

I once had that bullshit saying thrown at me SheilaT Nov 2015 #51

Thank you! ladyVet Nov 2015 #81

Never fathomed that way of thinking whatthehey Nov 2015 #135

I tend to agree with this sentiment. Xyzse Nov 2015 #173

+1000 BigDemVoter Nov 2015 #333

Well said SheilaT....I concur! nt haikugal Nov 2015 #255

Thank you. +10 840high Nov 2015 #275

it's a tired, bullshit cliche especially when there isn't anything/one "good" in the equation. nt m-lekktor Nov 2015 #319

Thats an excellent reason to vote for Bernie! demwing Nov 2015 #124

How? And with what Congress? BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #287

So you're counting on Clinton... what? Watching TV in the oval office for four years? Scootaloo Nov 2015 #296

I asked a pertinent question. With what Congress will a President Sanders "bring about BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #298

Except it's really not pertinent Scootaloo Nov 2015 #300

Actually it is, since I addressed the bold claim of that poster who might actually believe BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #308

A fine argument for someone supporting the worse of two positions. Scootaloo Nov 2015 #295

You may be mistaken re whom I'm supporting, if anyone. No Vested Interest Nov 2015 #305

++++++++infinity newfie11 Nov 2015 #34

Not according to MOST Democrats... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #43

You think our Democratic candidates are "evil"? Really? Please explain this. nt Hekate Nov 2015 #249

If you are so distraught Eko Nov 2015 #12

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ nt sunnystarr Nov 2015 #16

I second that emotion! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #68

+10000 BigDemVoter Nov 2015 #108

Yes yes and YES! n/t moonscape Nov 2015 #198

You hit it out of the park. . . . BigDemVoter Nov 2015 #334

Are there people who are still going to claim America wants Conservatives to rule? Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #13

People should vote for the candidate they think will do the best for the country. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #14

You do realize that anyone can sign up with DU and say... TreasonousBastard Nov 2015 #17

Thank you. murielm99 Nov 2015 #19

Damn. Well put. n/t pampango Nov 2015 #21

"Heading more or less in the general direction of perfection..." CrispyQ Nov 2015 #58

I Will vote for the Democratic candidate yuiyoshida Nov 2015 #18

Amen to that! DFW Nov 2015 #96

yes Skittles Nov 2015 #22

yes, one DUer even proclaims it in their sig line. KG Nov 2015 #23

Never seen a Clinton supporter say that treestar Nov 2015 #24

I believe that is only because the Hillary supporters cannot envision the nominee being anyone but djean111 Nov 2015 #25

We'd happily support Bernie were he to win the primary. JoePhilly Nov 2015 #73

HRC Supporters Are Comfortable Voting For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils cantbeserious Nov 2015 #26

Only **IF** Illinois is up for grabs Martin Eden Nov 2015 #27

I think there is a lot of posturing that takes place daily on this board liberal N proud Nov 2015 #28

Only if Senator Clinton has a chance of winning in WV. a la izquierda Nov 2015 #29

Probably not many. The Sanders supporters who will not vote for Clinton are mostly-- eridani Nov 2015 #30

Not saying all these posters are right-wing trolls. . . B Calm Nov 2015 #31

Yes. They will be voting for Sanders...who, in fact, is not a Democrat. nt kelliekat44 Nov 2015 #32

That's a feature, not a bug. [n/t] Maedhros Nov 2015 #152

That is not only an incorrect statement, it's a ludicrous one. You can't run for the Democratic merrily Nov 2015 #209

Right here, boyo. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2015 #33

+1000 nt restorefreedom Nov 2015 #183

"I'm not voting for that candidate" is complete bullshit by narcissists that want to be the prize Township75 Nov 2015 #35

I might not be voting "for" the Democractic candidate. I could be voting "against" the Republican. Vinca Nov 2015 #36

Me Etraker Nov 2015 #37

you do understand that just because bernie's the nominee that doesnt mean he will win the saturnsring Nov 2015 #39

Yes, I get that. Etraker Nov 2015 #40

no not the same result - saturnsring Nov 2015 #41

umm Etraker Nov 2015 #44

Thst depends entirely on the state in which one lives. hifiguy Nov 2015 #156

It's not that bad treestar Nov 2015 #47

Vainglorious Tilting At Windmills ProfessorGAC Nov 2015 #61

For my own part, 'pride' has nothing to do with it. Maedhros Nov 2015 #153

damn straight! eom elana i am Nov 2015 #175

I don't vote for Republicans. Le Taz Hot Nov 2015 #38

BRAVO, Taz! Me, neither. hifiguy Nov 2015 #159

Republicans are the cartoonish distraction intended to keep our attention away Maedhros Nov 2015 #189

Thanks for creating these kinds of OP's VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #45

That's all it takes? Reter Nov 2015 #52

Issues mean nothing. hifiguy Nov 2015 #162

you can add me. Etraker Nov 2015 #134

Please add me to your list. hifiguy Nov 2015 #163

You could put me on your list, but that would get in the way of your email stalking. (nt) jeff47 Nov 2015 #254

As soon as you say.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #257

It's really not that hard to avoid hides. jeff47 Nov 2015 #258

Well check mine and see.. VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #259

You don't have to be cowed. You have to take a moment to be eloquent. jeff47 Nov 2015 #262

I dont have to do anything....I vote Democrat VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #263

And bullshit .... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #264

Well, I am throwing in things that could get me a hide jeff47 Nov 2015 #265

Dude you have no idea what you are talking about VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #266

Why would I want to walk in your shoes? jeff47 Nov 2015 #270

Then dont pretend you know my experience VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #271

It's gall to take you at your word? jeff47 Nov 2015 #277

Do know wjlhat the word gall means? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #278

Yep! I can actually use a dictionary! jeff47 Nov 2015 #280

Excuse me...YOU were the initial whiner...I was just VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #282

Yes, the one complaining about alert stalking for posts like jeff47 Nov 2015 #290

BTW I aint no one's victim VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #273

Then you better go edit post 257. jeff47 Nov 2015 #276

Stating fact is not complaining VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #279

Might be true if you were stating a fact. jeff47 Nov 2015 #284

I was....thats the point....you know there VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #285

Yep. In fact we can all see what you really got hidden for. jeff47 Nov 2015 #292

I'll vote for Sanders or O'Malley only pengu Nov 2015 #46

I'll join you. 840high Nov 2015 #283

if hillary gets the nomination I do not know what i will do Amishman Nov 2015 #48

Yes. abelenkpe Nov 2015 #49

I find her more offensive than most politicians... TipTok Nov 2015 #50

"...ANY Democratic candidate would be a better alternative." CrispyQ Nov 2015 #54

That though I agree. Xyzse Nov 2015 #182

Why isn't this in GD-P? nt ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2015 #57

I put it here,as it's a general question--not "really" about the primaries. BigDemVoter Nov 2015 #110

The "I may not vote Democratic" thing is exclusive to Sanders supporters. Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #60

As far as I am concerned.... Etraker Nov 2015 #64

Hillary will never sign a bill that allows health insurers to once again discriminate Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #65

Not to mention the SCOTUS. . . . Imagine the justices the Repukes would nominate. . . . BigDemVoter Nov 2015 #111

don't be so sure Robbins Nov 2015 #130

She was busting her ass back in 1994 trying to get universal health coverage, Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #145

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #62

Not this shit again. PowerToThePeople Nov 2015 #63

Any of the democrats currently Rebkeh Nov 2015 #69

So, most people live in either a deeply blue state or a deeply red state Kalidurga Nov 2015 #70

Agreed. Voters in genuine swing states will hold their nose and vote their party. Lizzie Poppet Nov 2015 #75

Yep if I lived in a swing state I would proclaim my love for Hillary if she wins the nomination. Kalidurga Nov 2015 #77

I'll keep an eye on the polls, but I doubt my state's in play, either. Lizzie Poppet Nov 2015 #84

Good Point BigDemVoter Nov 2015 #114

Well I don't think she is going to win the nomination. Kalidurga Nov 2015 #123

I'm in a non-swing state but I'm still inclined to hold my nose and vote for Clinton Jim Lane Nov 2015 #168

Well then that pretty much settles it for me. Kalidurga Nov 2015 #172

Haven't Made Up My Mind YET... But I AM ChiciB1 Nov 2015 #85

I will vote for who ever is left on the Democratic ticket and I don't have a dog in this race... Stellar Nov 2015 #95

I ryan_cats Nov 2015 #104

Me pinebox Nov 2015 #106

I will vote for the best candidate GummyBearz Nov 2015 #112

At DU, I've learned that Hillary doesn't need my vote demwing Nov 2015 #115

If Rubio is the nominee, and I think he will be, she will need every vote she can muster Purveyor Nov 2015 #133

The arrogance of the 'You WILL vote for HRH hifiguy Nov 2015 #157

Yep, and i'm done with it demwing Nov 2015 #177

oh hell yes. restorefreedom Nov 2015 #186

It's a big turn-off. 840high Nov 2015 #286

I'm afraid so. KamaAina Nov 2015 #116

Not voting for Hillary. nt Romulox Nov 2015 #119

I am a Hillary supporter, but I would definitely vote for Bernie if he is the nominee. hamsterjill Nov 2015 #126

I will vote for Clinton HassleCat Nov 2015 #131

Can't say at this time I will vote for her and I think this time Michigan is Purveyor Nov 2015 #132

I can't control the slimey liying bastards in the republican party. I can willvotesdem Nov 2015 #136

My state is as blue as the sky in presidential elections hifiguy Nov 2015 #137

Same Here The River Nov 2015 #146

Recall how it was that Bush was elected President, and remained so for 8 years. No Vested Interest Nov 2015 #142

Nader got 20,000 D votes. W got 200,000 D votes. jeff47 Nov 2015 #302

Many persons were angry/disgusted at Bill Clinton's behavior and could not get past that. No Vested Interest Nov 2015 #306

And you still are still ignoring W got 10x more votes jeff47 Nov 2015 #315

W got 10X more votes? Where did that occur? No Vested Interest Nov 2015 #320

:facepalm: jeff47 Nov 2015 #321

I'm sure you have a point there somewhere, but not sure what it is. No Vested Interest Nov 2015 #324

It's bullshit like this that prevents any change to the status quo. I don't care WHICH consonant is AzDar Nov 2015 #143

It's not about you Nonhlanhla Nov 2015 #149

Yes. And I don't need to 'justify' anything to the Anointed Priesthood. Shandris Nov 2015 #151

These kinds of threads should end. Really. It's been a year or more. Enough really is enough. merrily Nov 2015 #154

I must have missed them. I've been around since 2001 and am back BigDemVoter Nov 2015 #212

Not only in OPs but in reply after reply, to the point of hectoring at times. Also, in polls. merrily Nov 2015 #217

I'm pretty sure I've seen one of them 'convert' several times over. Marr Nov 2015 #317

Bread and Circus's "Have you flipped" thread is hilarious, too. merrily Nov 2015 #322

Let's cross that bridge when we come to it. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2015 #158

Oh heck yeah jberryhill Nov 2015 #160

Thank you for that. Teddy Kennedy understood and did the right thing. nt No Vested Interest Nov 2015 #165

The right thing? jberryhill Nov 2015 #169

1976. nt No Vested Interest Nov 2015 #171

Present.. frylock Nov 2015 #166

Judging by at least some of the posts here Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2015 #167

. . . Le Taz Hot Nov 2015 #174

Right? OMG, the cognitive dissonance ... AzDar Nov 2015 #178

+1, lol. /nt Marr Nov 2015 #318

do you not see ANY irony in your statement? elana i am Nov 2015 #180

good grief, do we have to have one of these EVERY day? restorefreedom Nov 2015 #188

No, I won't bbmykel Nov 2015 #190

War is the worst thing caused by man. cpwm17 Nov 2015 #195

Wasn't racism Muhammed Ali's take on wars against people of color, or akin to it? merrily Nov 2015 #207

I know he said he didn't want to go 10,000 miles from home and kill innocent brown people. n/t cpwm17 Nov 2015 #220

Went to jail for it. Still revered. Times change. We're "morally flexible gasbags" now, to quote merrily Nov 2015 #222

Gosh, what a patriot. I am floored by his devotion. JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #246

DanTex has completely convinced me that it won't matter to my life if a republican aikoaiko Nov 2015 #196

I'm tired of the passive aggressive lesser of two evils shit ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2015 #200

Thanks for the fresh take FlatBaroque Nov 2015 #203

I guess I missed the fresh part? Hold your nose and vote Democratic, no matter what, regardless of merrily Nov 2015 #211

I will vote for the DEM. Candidate, and.... Mike Nelson Nov 2015 #206

When you vote for the lesser of two evils Kelvin Mace Nov 2015 #215

...+1 840high Nov 2015 #288

Yes. Chan790 Nov 2015 #221

I'll vote for any Dem candidate except for one. nt Zorra Nov 2015 #223

Seconded as vociferously as I possibly can. hifiguy Nov 2015 #240

A number of brand new posters here who are advocating not voting for the Democratic nominee. Squinch Nov 2015 #228

I was wondering the same thing. . . . BigDemVoter Nov 2015 #242

And more than 5 of those people running around saying, "Don't vote for the Democrat!!!" Squinch Nov 2015 #329

I do not like Clinton, but will gladly hold my nose and vote for her over any GOP idiot. nt Logical Nov 2015 #235

Hillary supporters will only vote for a Democrat. RichVRichV Nov 2015 #239

Yes, and they keep calling the rest of us "Third Wayers" as a generic insult.... Hekate Nov 2015 #241

This isnt a monarchy. Clinton has already had 2 terms. climber3986 Nov 2015 #243

I'll vote Green if Clinton's the nominee. Smarmie Doofus Nov 2015 #252

You could write in Bernie. merrily Nov 2015 #281

Exactly what I plan to do. 840high Nov 2015 #291

There sure are. I'm one of them. liberal_at_heart Nov 2015 #253

If Clinton doesn't apologize for her DOMA remarks, I won't. Prism Nov 2015 #260

Oh, I think she will. She is a realist and will see the handwriting on the wall and the CTyankee Nov 2015 #335

One fellow proudly wears such a declaration as his signature line Scootaloo Nov 2015 #294

I won't vote for Hillary under any circumstances. Zavulon Nov 2015 #297

I'm in Clalifornia. The winner of the GE for president does not depend on California's voters or my JDPriestly Nov 2015 #303

It won't affect me, because in Indiana we usually don't have a choice. The idea that all silvershadow Nov 2015 #307

As a Democrat and a strategic voter, I will support the nominee. Thinking of working for Clinton-- eridani Nov 2015 #309

The worst Democrat is still better than the best Republican GOLGO 13 Nov 2015 #311

If Hillary Clinton loses, it's because she employed a losing strategy, period. Marr Nov 2015 #316

Is this a tombstone troll? Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #326

I'm not sure what that is, but it doesn't sound nice! BigDemVoter Nov 2015 #332