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Ghost in the Machine

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46. The OP has already been addressed, quite adequately. The police couldn't do anything because he
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 05:27 AM
Nov 2015

hadn't broken a law YET. That's venturing off into the "Thought Crimes Police" territory.

This guy was minding his business until he started shooting!


Except that the business he was minding WAS to go on a rampage. Didn't the OP mention a Facebook or Twitter rant? Didn't the OP also say the caller recognized the neighbor, but didn't know his name, but looked like he'd had a few rough days? Since we're venturing off into the "woulda, shoulda, coulda", if the neighbor would have known the guy's name, maybe the cops could have looked him up right quick on Google, Facebook or Twitter, found his rants, and thought "Hey! Maybe, just MAYBE, we *should* check this guy out before he hurts himself or someone else".

Open carry is a fucking disaster. Certainly a smart guy like you can see the problem here, right? Right?


I'm more worried about the guns being carried that I *can't* see, as they are more prone to be of the criminal element, and can take you by surprise. At least you can keep your eye on someone who is open carrying. If they started acting strange and threatening people, maybe then you could sneak up on them and tackle them without becoming a criminal yourself. "Carrying" is a LOT DIFFERENT than "Brandishing", but you already know that, right? "Carrying" is a handgun in a holster, or rifle slung over the shoulder. When it comes out of that holster or off the shoulder, THEN there is cause for concern and you would be well within your rights of self defense because you feared for your life, or the lives of others.

But hey, shit happens, right Ghost? Gotta break a few eggs to protect the bigger picture. I'm sure you meant to send your condolences to the families of those deceased in your post.


Do you follow my every post here? Do you know my real name and follow me on Facebook? How do you know I haven't already expressed my condolences?? HINT: I *ALWAYS* feel bad for the innocent victims, and their families, even if it's nothing more than sitting here shaking my head, wondering what in the fuck this world has turned into. I can remember, many years ago, when we used to have our hunting rifles in our cars/trucks in the parking lot of the high school during deer season because season was only open for 2 weeks, and we hunted before and after school. NOT ONCE, from 8th grade through my senior year, did anyone EVER bring one of those rifles into the school and threaten anyone. I guess we had a different mindset 35-40 years ago.

I rarely ever look at a user name when responding to a reply in an OP, but seeing yours now, I think we have had a few small exchanges here and there that were pleasant. How about we make this one our first, and last, unpleasant one? You posted what I felt was a reactionary reply to the OP, and I posted an equally reactionary reply to your reply....

Peace,

Ghost

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Jesus. Why bother to call at all? Laffy Kat Nov 2015 #1
THIS is the argument I've not heard any Democrat use: Democrats want to prevent gun crime; Re- WinkyDink Nov 2015 #5
Well we don't want Republicans running around shooting potential shooters IronLionZion Nov 2015 #19
Well, yes, except in the case of African Americans . . . markpkessinger Nov 2015 #33
As long as not one person who now has a gun will lose it, who cares. randys1 Nov 2015 #2
Exactly. I've gotten to the point where I just hope someone I love or I'm not around the next catbyte Nov 2015 #35
That's it. yardwork Nov 2015 #60
It's ALLLLLLLL good until he shoots someone!!!!! ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2015 #3
This post is the perfect example of why the anti-gunners can't gain any traction on their cause.. Ghost in the Machine Nov 2015 #43
Here's an idea....address the story in the OP if you want to "add to the discussion" ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2015 #44
The loss of a couple of human lives pales... Crunchy Frog Nov 2015 #45
The OP has already been addressed, quite adequately. The police couldn't do anything because he Ghost in the Machine Nov 2015 #46
We made a call to 911 about a man walking down the road carrying his rifle. Pathwalker Nov 2015 #49
I'm so sorry ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2015 #54
"I guess that makes us all anti-gun nutters, huh?" No, not at all. You did what you felt was the... Ghost in the Machine Nov 2015 #55
Police departments should take responsibility for these mistakes. Baitball Blogger Nov 2015 #4
Except it's not their mistake. gcomeau Nov 2015 #13
I agree, however police often still do go check things out if someone has called in a concern. Quixote1818 Nov 2015 #15
Thats just what I was going to say. They ALWAYS investigate a call like that 7962 Nov 2015 #23
The last sentence. Volaris Nov 2015 #24
If you want a timely response, tell the dispatcher the person is black. Crunchy Frog Nov 2015 #40
+1 Baitball Blogger Nov 2015 #52
it wasn't a mistake. People in Colorado have a right to walk around with military-grade geek tragedy Nov 2015 #50
Some people are overly impressed with their own importance. lpbk2713 Nov 2015 #6
"This dispatcher would be a case in point. It was an individual decision" < Should be criminal jtuck004 Nov 2015 #11
My take as well... Whiskeytide Nov 2015 #47
I have never been in favor of open carry. Snobblevitch Nov 2015 #7
The caller should have said he looked Middle Eastern instead of distraught central scrutinizer Nov 2015 #8
ugh you're probably right. n/t retrowire Nov 2015 #12
Or black and he is a perfect example as to why you are exactly right Quixote1818 Nov 2015 #16
Why didnt we see the rest of the 1st video? 7962 Nov 2015 #26
Reminded me of this: Guy Whitey Corngood Nov 2015 #58
Damn. Just dammit riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #9
This is very disturbing. mountain grammy Nov 2015 #10
someone I know called the police KT2000 Nov 2015 #14
cowards must have their guns Skittles Nov 2015 #17
ammosexuals noticably absent from this thread.... KG Nov 2015 #31
they are only upset by penis jokes Skittles Nov 2015 #32
i don't make penis jokes but it seems to me they carry their manhood in a holster. KG Nov 2015 #36
that kind of talk upsets them Skittles Nov 2015 #39
Noticed that. ThoughtCriminal Nov 2015 #34
that was bad enough. I want to know what took them so long AFTER the young man called niyad Nov 2015 #18
Open-Carry Militia Mom ‘Murders’ Family whereisjustice Nov 2015 #20
Michael Moore- The Awful Truth whereisjustice Nov 2015 #21
You can open carry an AR-15? BlueCheese Nov 2015 #22
I am opposed to open carry. Snobblevitch Nov 2015 #30
That'd also be messed up. BlueCheese Nov 2015 #37
My idiot state, Kansas, voted for open carry for anyone after the Jewish Community Center........ Logical Nov 2015 #25
I bet that 911 operator hasn't slept since that call. B Calm Nov 2015 #27
Let's hope not. The caller clearly said that he "didn't look right." No excuse for not sending a car catbyte Nov 2015 #38
I bet he's sleeping like a baby. Crunchy Frog Nov 2015 #42
How to Tell the Difference Between an Open-Carry Patriot and a Deranged Killer --- KG Nov 2015 #28
Colorado DustyJoe Nov 2015 #29
I was a dispatcher for years and this dispatcher was in the wrong. xmas74 Nov 2015 #41
Ladies and gentlemen, ... Straw Man Nov 2015 #56
FUCK OPEN CARRY. cui bono Nov 2015 #48
Another responsible gun owner who wasn't. madinmaryland Nov 2015 #51
What does that actually mean? Straw Man Nov 2015 #57
Read the OP. stone space May 2016 #61
I read the OP. Straw Man May 2016 #62
This is just my opinion gwheezie Nov 2015 #53
So this is the problem. Vinca Nov 2015 #59
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