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In reply to the discussion: ENOUGH of the NONSENSE about the DNC not helping in WI. They ARE. [View all]Drew Richards
(1,558 posts)17. In short NO Show me the proof. Your own words are the propaganda
They've given $1.4 million in money and/or organizational help with national fundraising appeals and Wasserman-Schultz coming soon for more fundraising.
Translation:
7 weeks ago they authorized 1.4 Million for QUOTE NATIONAL fundraising in Wisconsin...NOT for this fight... In fact it has been reported by both the DNC and the Directory of the Democratic party that out of that 1.4 Million they received $500,000...
The rest of the quote SUPPORT...is for gearing up the national Obama campaign drive...
The DCCC is in. The DGA is in. Other national groups like Bold Progressives and MoveOn are in.
These are other groups and NOT the DNC now are they?...and they also have stated they are supporting the Barrett campaign AND gearing up for national elections...They can't do it all...
Wasserman said this is a very important election with strong national implications.
However, when ASKED if a Dem loss would mean Obama would lose nationally,
she simply replied that such recalls are essentially STATE level elections with STATE level dynamics, and, NO, he would still win nationally including in WI. So let's stop the nonsense, stop the hyperbole, listen to the FACTS, and just get on with doing everything we can to win in ALL places, including this June 5th in WI.
How fucking brain dead is this answer? Or is it as I suspect she is trying to screw the Democratic party.
Local and State Elections are MORE important to me than even the Obama presidency at least at this point in time since the 2012 is still months away and the recall is here TODAY!!!
If you are actually a DEMOCRAT that want's change and the return to sanity...OBAMA alone as president can't do jack **** if all the senators, representatives and state governors are raving fanatical lunatics who would sell their mothers and the water we drink for cash in their back pockets...COME ON Wake the HELL up! the President is one man...he can tell the ship where he would LIKE it to go...but it is the Senators, Representative and Governors that DRIVE the ship...and control how the STATES function or not function...and what rights their citizens will enjoy...
Are you catching on yet to the reality of Political Theory?
Yeah a little loss in Wisconsin doesn't matter
...even if the governor has virtually declared himself king and has stripped everyones rights, social services, regional political representation... and sold all of the mineral rights to private parties...
HELL even of we get rid of him it will take 20 years of litigation to fix all the things he has broken...
This proves to me at least, I am convinced she is another one of those damn capitulating middle way appeasers that for all I know is a mole for the Republicans or the Koch's Empire...I have followed her for months, and she always is either putting her foot in her mouth or doing too little too late to be EFFECTIVE!!! She needs to go...Bring back Dean and watch the party grow...
Dem Party Chairman in WI Mike Tate says there is no lack of DNC commitment and THANKS them for their help.
And what do you expect him to say if he wants to keep his position? Duhhuh
Also, just for the record, I myself just donated AGAIN to the Barrett campaign from Maine and have also given to the WI Dems several time.
Good for you but this has nothing to do with your original OP premise...
So people here should stop complaining about the DNC based on corporate media crap out of the AP and the Washington Post and start DONATING to the cause THEMSELVES. You can even make calls from ANY state, and I have done that too.
Yeah because you know...a few thousand of us is equal to the DNC organizations money and infrastructure in total...snark!
one more:
and Wasserman-Schultz coming soon for more fundraising.
Well bully for fucking her and the DNC...when are they coming? AFTER the recall election is done? Do you think many of the Wisconsinites that have bleed for this recall are going to welcome this turd blossom with open arms when she shows up after the fact?
They answer is hell no..too little too late...as I think she intended...
Focusing only on the presidential race to the detriment of the most charged recall in 100 years to save Democracy from the Plutarch's is the most myopic, stupid, lame, incompetent thing I have ever seen a Democratic group do.
If the recall fails? I for one will blame her personally, it doesn't mean I will stop being involved and supporting Democrats and I will of course work for Obama again for the next election...It just means I will have to hold my nose and keep my mouth shut when she is in the room.
Translation:
7 weeks ago they authorized 1.4 Million for QUOTE NATIONAL fundraising in Wisconsin...NOT for this fight... In fact it has been reported by both the DNC and the Directory of the Democratic party that out of that 1.4 Million they received $500,000...
The rest of the quote SUPPORT...is for gearing up the national Obama campaign drive...
The DCCC is in. The DGA is in. Other national groups like Bold Progressives and MoveOn are in.
These are other groups and NOT the DNC now are they?...and they also have stated they are supporting the Barrett campaign AND gearing up for national elections...They can't do it all...
Wasserman said this is a very important election with strong national implications.
However, when ASKED if a Dem loss would mean Obama would lose nationally,
she simply replied that such recalls are essentially STATE level elections with STATE level dynamics, and, NO, he would still win nationally including in WI. So let's stop the nonsense, stop the hyperbole, listen to the FACTS, and just get on with doing everything we can to win in ALL places, including this June 5th in WI.
How fucking brain dead is this answer? Or is it as I suspect she is trying to screw the Democratic party.
Local and State Elections are MORE important to me than even the Obama presidency at least at this point in time since the 2012 is still months away and the recall is here TODAY!!!
If you are actually a DEMOCRAT that want's change and the return to sanity...OBAMA alone as president can't do jack **** if all the senators, representatives and state governors are raving fanatical lunatics who would sell their mothers and the water we drink for cash in their back pockets...COME ON Wake the HELL up! the President is one man...he can tell the ship where he would LIKE it to go...but it is the Senators, Representative and Governors that DRIVE the ship...and control how the STATES function or not function...and what rights their citizens will enjoy...
Are you catching on yet to the reality of Political Theory?
Yeah a little loss in Wisconsin doesn't matter
HELL even of we get rid of him it will take 20 years of litigation to fix all the things he has broken...
This proves to me at least, I am convinced she is another one of those damn capitulating middle way appeasers that for all I know is a mole for the Republicans or the Koch's Empire...I have followed her for months, and she always is either putting her foot in her mouth or doing too little too late to be EFFECTIVE!!! She needs to go...Bring back Dean and watch the party grow...
Dem Party Chairman in WI Mike Tate says there is no lack of DNC commitment and THANKS them for their help.
And what do you expect him to say if he wants to keep his position? Duhhuh
Also, just for the record, I myself just donated AGAIN to the Barrett campaign from Maine and have also given to the WI Dems several time.
Good for you but this has nothing to do with your original OP premise...
So people here should stop complaining about the DNC based on corporate media crap out of the AP and the Washington Post and start DONATING to the cause THEMSELVES. You can even make calls from ANY state, and I have done that too.
Yeah because you know...a few thousand of us is equal to the DNC organizations money and infrastructure in total...snark!
one more:
and Wasserman-Schultz coming soon for more fundraising.
Well bully for fucking her and the DNC...when are they coming? AFTER the recall election is done? Do you think many of the Wisconsinites that have bleed for this recall are going to welcome this turd blossom with open arms when she shows up after the fact?
They answer is hell no..too little too late...as I think she intended...
Focusing only on the presidential race to the detriment of the most charged recall in 100 years to save Democracy from the Plutarch's is the most myopic, stupid, lame, incompetent thing I have ever seen a Democratic group do.
If the recall fails? I for one will blame her personally, it doesn't mean I will stop being involved and supporting Democrats and I will of course work for Obama again for the next election...It just means I will have to hold my nose and keep my mouth shut when she is in the room.
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Not recently. Otherwise they would be telling us about that in an unambigous way.
AnotherMcIntosh
May 2012
#14
Here: Scott Walker Recall: DNC Appeals To 'Millions' To Raise Money For Tom Barrett
SunsetDreams
May 2012
#20
Thanks RB. It's a very deliberate attempt by some to continually sow division among us.
Tarheel_Dem
May 2012
#18