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42. the left not voting only drives the left pols more to the right and this is what you get

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Wed Nov 4, 2015, 03:46 PM

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Democrats cannot win with 31% turnout... [View all] kentuck Nov 2015 OP

. madamesilverspurs Nov 2015 #1

Democrats can deny reality and blame the voters all they want. It won't stop it from happening. liberal_at_heart Nov 2015 #3

While that is a good ideal, the values of states like Kentucky are not necessarily the same still_one Nov 2015 #61

Exactly why the GOP is always throwing up roadblocks to voting liberal N proud Nov 2015 #2

If DWS sends out tweeters, will that help? Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #4

She can send out a mailing asking what issues matter most... Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #9

Geez, srsly, culture war issues <facepalm> Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #12

The party has invested a lot of resources iandhr Nov 2015 #5

Can you tell us exactly what the party is doing in those 12 jwirr Nov 2015 #75

Phone calls, canvasses the type of work that can win elections. iandhr Nov 2015 #91

I have done all of that. Just hoped there was more. Thanks. jwirr Nov 2015 #92

A good field operation can be the difference between winning and loosing. iandhr Nov 2015 #93

And yet a proposal for mandatory voting was met with teabagger-like paranoia KamaAina Nov 2015 #6

No one will ever force me to vote. You can call it teabagger like paranoia all you want. liberal_at_heart Nov 2015 #10

Would you mind being able to abstain JackInGreen Nov 2015 #17

It's still a secret ballot? Correct? You can skip races or turn in a completely blank ballot. retread Nov 2015 #18

Not the point. There would be a lot of people who would not vote simply because they were liberal_at_heart Nov 2015 #23

So people can't protest anymore? LittleBlue Nov 2015 #58

So Australia is fascist? KamaAina Nov 2015 #64

They do have those tendencies, yes LittleBlue Nov 2015 #66

Protesting the political process by not voting just makes the process worse. It's brain-dead stupid. arcane1 Nov 2015 #65

So you're going to drag Native Americans to the voting stations? LittleBlue Nov 2015 #67

I hadn't thought of the NA angle, you do have a point there. arcane1 Nov 2015 #68

You're right about it not accomplishing anything LittleBlue Nov 2015 #69

I don't know what reservation you are from but Native Americans jwirr Nov 2015 #76

No shit. That's exactly why compulsory voting is wrong LittleBlue Nov 2015 #82

My family is Native American and we live on a big reservation. jwirr Nov 2015 #83

I did taxes for a lady who wouldn't touch anything by our government, including a ballot LittleBlue Nov 2015 #84

My point was that on a very cold day in November there would jwirr Nov 2015 #85

What does that have to do with anything I said? LittleBlue Nov 2015 #86

Just another reason to make the DNC a functioning jaysunb Nov 2015 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Nov 2015 #8

Or perhaps Democrats aren't liberal enough anymore. closeupready Nov 2015 #50

We had a lot less of a turnout in Pennsylvania and yet Democrats swept the elections. nt onehandle Nov 2015 #11

The GOPers have hard, bright line stands on issues, and hammer the opposition... Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #13

This. (nt) jeff47 Nov 2015 #15

Finding that special- warm purple place is the idea I believe. appalachiablue Nov 2015 #32

Push for all vote-by-mail. It works. Arugula Latte Nov 2015 #14

I hope we never so that. yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #52

Giving up socializing for a half hour is a small price to pay for a much better political system. Arugula Latte Nov 2015 #70

How about getting off the couch and go vote? (Not you just the voter) yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #73

Well, that's not working. Turnout is dismal. Millions who don't vote aren't sitting "on the couch"-- Arugula Latte Nov 2015 #74

That excuse is nonsense yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #87

We get higher turn out on off year elections. Arugula Latte Nov 2015 #88

I am against it because I get myself to the voting table every year yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #89

You're against reforming the system for everybody even when the stakes are so high Arugula Latte Nov 2015 #94

I observe that nobody responding to this thread is offering an opinion on what the KY Party did... brooklynite Nov 2015 #16

I could accept that each state is different... kentuck Nov 2015 #19

The problem is much larger than KY. jeff47 Nov 2015 #21

stupid kentuckians they vote in a dem sos and ag then put in a teabagger gov who is gonna saturnsring Nov 2015 #20

I bet the more insults you hurl at them, the more they will do what you want! (nt) jeff47 Nov 2015 #22

stupid is as stupid does - wether i call them stupid or not it was a stupid move, amiright? saturnsring Nov 2015 #26

That depends on if you want to change what happens jeff47 Nov 2015 #27

since i have no impact on what kentuckians do it matters not what i say saturnsring Nov 2015 #30

They only drive the "left pols further to the right" if those pols are dumb. jeff47 Nov 2015 #33

so stay home - that'll really show them - the republicans you help get elected will thank you saturnsring Nov 2015 #36

The difference is Democrats will negotiate away Saturday as a compromise jeff47 Nov 2015 #40

the left not voting only drives the left pols more to the right and this is what you get saturnsring Nov 2015 #42

Because when a strategy fails, the best course is to repeat that strategy. jeff47 Nov 2015 #47

Before you call Kentuckians stupid, Big Blue Marble Nov 2015 #43

31% turnout my guess is that that 31% isnt all dems saturnsring Nov 2015 #46

And everyone thinks Hillary Clinton will be the candidate that motivates people to vote? N/t Calista241 Nov 2015 #24

Why, she Will motivate many: She's putting out an add big on gun control. Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #37

Yeah, that should work. Calista241 Nov 2015 #54

The issue is national. Some blue state Democrat needn't worry, but purple state Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #62

I agree completely. Imo, guns are a very bad issue for us. Calista241 Nov 2015 #80

Between Hillary and the actions of the DNC, I would not be surprised to see picketing as close to merrily Nov 2015 #57

it requires candidates that excite people tk2kewl Nov 2015 #25

more of the i need to be dazzled to vote - saturnsring Nov 2015 #28

people need something to vote for IMO tk2kewl Nov 2015 #29

how about keeping what little you have isnt that something to vote for saturnsring Nov 2015 #31

That is not what is being offered. jeff47 Nov 2015 #34

not voting isnt gonna solve any of that. oh well lookee here The election�s No. 1 issue was healthca saturnsring Nov 2015 #38

Continuous failure should make the Democrats realize they need to change course. jeff47 Nov 2015 #41

how has that worked so far saturnsring Nov 2015 #44

Well, voting for Republican-lite sure hasn't helped. jeff47 Nov 2015 #49

even if our candidates suck *I'm* still gonna vote for them tk2kewl Nov 2015 #45

It requires nothing more than personal conviction... LanternWaste Nov 2015 #51

well... a lot of folks do not have that conviction tk2kewl Nov 2015 #63

Last election Beshear won with only a 28.6% turnout. Big Blue Marble Nov 2015 #35

yet more proof that if clinton is the nom restorefreedom Nov 2015 #39

That's my biggest fear. Vinca Nov 2015 #48

i think a trump presidency is a real possibility too. nt restorefreedom Nov 2015 #53

a lot of Obama voters have lost that excitement Skittles Nov 2015 #55

Yes. That's why we shouldn't 840high Nov 2015 #90

Yep. We can thank Hillary, DWS, and the other Third Way DINOs backscatter712 Nov 2015 #72

they will be ready for a movie or american idol restorefreedom Nov 2015 #78

31% for an election that is neither a Presidential nor a mid term is not bad, relatively speaking. merrily Nov 2015 #56

We need to see the return of Gov. Dean. Kingofalldems Nov 2015 #59

Turnout was 28% in 2011 DemocraticWing Nov 2015 #60

In 2010 and 2014... kentuck Nov 2015 #77

if we don't increase voter turnout, the MINORITY will fucking rule this country. spanone Nov 2015 #71

they already do. its a plutocracy now restorefreedom Nov 2015 #79

And given what is at stack that is not a good idea for 2016. jwirr Nov 2015 #81

Kentuck you are absolutely correct. Tatiana Nov 2015 #95