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57. Between Hillary and the actions of the DNC, I would not be surprised to see picketing as close to

Wed Nov 4, 2015, 04:35 PM

Nov 2015

polling places as they can get. And I do expect a lot of staying home, which I think is the very worst thing a voter can do with their franchise.

I love voting. I even love standing on line with my neighbors. I loved it a little less in 2004, when it was pouring rain, but someone introduced me to the Speaker of the Mass House who were standing in front of me and we had a nice conversation. Lovely, lovely people. He's in federal prison, where quite a few Mass speakers have gone and he has cancer now, but I bet he's still pleasant to everyone. And they did make the four hours standing on line* go by faster.

*Until recently, the law of the blue, blue state of Massachusetts provided for only one day for voting, but at least we did go to paper ballots in that 2004 Presidential, the validity of the votes that do get cast, regardless of how few, being another issue about which little is done by most officials.

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Democrats cannot win with 31% turnout... [View all] kentuck Nov 2015 OP

. madamesilverspurs Nov 2015 #1

Democrats can deny reality and blame the voters all they want. It won't stop it from happening. liberal_at_heart Nov 2015 #3

While that is a good ideal, the values of states like Kentucky are not necessarily the same still_one Nov 2015 #61

Exactly why the GOP is always throwing up roadblocks to voting liberal N proud Nov 2015 #2

If DWS sends out tweeters, will that help? Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #4

She can send out a mailing asking what issues matter most... Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #9

Geez, srsly, culture war issues <facepalm> Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #12

The party has invested a lot of resources iandhr Nov 2015 #5

Can you tell us exactly what the party is doing in those 12 jwirr Nov 2015 #75

Phone calls, canvasses the type of work that can win elections. iandhr Nov 2015 #91

I have done all of that. Just hoped there was more. Thanks. jwirr Nov 2015 #92

A good field operation can be the difference between winning and loosing. iandhr Nov 2015 #93

And yet a proposal for mandatory voting was met with teabagger-like paranoia KamaAina Nov 2015 #6

No one will ever force me to vote. You can call it teabagger like paranoia all you want. liberal_at_heart Nov 2015 #10

Would you mind being able to abstain JackInGreen Nov 2015 #17

It's still a secret ballot? Correct? You can skip races or turn in a completely blank ballot. retread Nov 2015 #18

Not the point. There would be a lot of people who would not vote simply because they were liberal_at_heart Nov 2015 #23

So people can't protest anymore? LittleBlue Nov 2015 #58

So Australia is fascist? KamaAina Nov 2015 #64

They do have those tendencies, yes LittleBlue Nov 2015 #66

Protesting the political process by not voting just makes the process worse. It's brain-dead stupid. arcane1 Nov 2015 #65

So you're going to drag Native Americans to the voting stations? LittleBlue Nov 2015 #67

I hadn't thought of the NA angle, you do have a point there. arcane1 Nov 2015 #68

You're right about it not accomplishing anything LittleBlue Nov 2015 #69

I don't know what reservation you are from but Native Americans jwirr Nov 2015 #76

No shit. That's exactly why compulsory voting is wrong LittleBlue Nov 2015 #82

My family is Native American and we live on a big reservation. jwirr Nov 2015 #83

I did taxes for a lady who wouldn't touch anything by our government, including a ballot LittleBlue Nov 2015 #84

My point was that on a very cold day in November there would jwirr Nov 2015 #85

What does that have to do with anything I said? LittleBlue Nov 2015 #86

Just another reason to make the DNC a functioning jaysunb Nov 2015 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Nov 2015 #8

Or perhaps Democrats aren't liberal enough anymore. closeupready Nov 2015 #50

We had a lot less of a turnout in Pennsylvania and yet Democrats swept the elections. nt onehandle Nov 2015 #11

The GOPers have hard, bright line stands on issues, and hammer the opposition... Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #13

This. (nt) jeff47 Nov 2015 #15

Finding that special- warm purple place is the idea I believe. appalachiablue Nov 2015 #32

Push for all vote-by-mail. It works. Arugula Latte Nov 2015 #14

I hope we never so that. yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #52

Giving up socializing for a half hour is a small price to pay for a much better political system. Arugula Latte Nov 2015 #70

How about getting off the couch and go vote? (Not you just the voter) yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #73

Well, that's not working. Turnout is dismal. Millions who don't vote aren't sitting "on the couch"-- Arugula Latte Nov 2015 #74

That excuse is nonsense yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #87

We get higher turn out on off year elections. Arugula Latte Nov 2015 #88

I am against it because I get myself to the voting table every year yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #89

You're against reforming the system for everybody even when the stakes are so high Arugula Latte Nov 2015 #94

I observe that nobody responding to this thread is offering an opinion on what the KY Party did... brooklynite Nov 2015 #16

I could accept that each state is different... kentuck Nov 2015 #19

The problem is much larger than KY. jeff47 Nov 2015 #21

stupid kentuckians they vote in a dem sos and ag then put in a teabagger gov who is gonna saturnsring Nov 2015 #20

I bet the more insults you hurl at them, the more they will do what you want! (nt) jeff47 Nov 2015 #22

stupid is as stupid does - wether i call them stupid or not it was a stupid move, amiright? saturnsring Nov 2015 #26

That depends on if you want to change what happens jeff47 Nov 2015 #27

since i have no impact on what kentuckians do it matters not what i say saturnsring Nov 2015 #30

They only drive the "left pols further to the right" if those pols are dumb. jeff47 Nov 2015 #33

so stay home - that'll really show them - the republicans you help get elected will thank you saturnsring Nov 2015 #36

The difference is Democrats will negotiate away Saturday as a compromise jeff47 Nov 2015 #40

the left not voting only drives the left pols more to the right and this is what you get saturnsring Nov 2015 #42

Because when a strategy fails, the best course is to repeat that strategy. jeff47 Nov 2015 #47

Before you call Kentuckians stupid, Big Blue Marble Nov 2015 #43

31% turnout my guess is that that 31% isnt all dems saturnsring Nov 2015 #46

And everyone thinks Hillary Clinton will be the candidate that motivates people to vote? N/t Calista241 Nov 2015 #24

Why, she Will motivate many: She's putting out an add big on gun control. Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #37

Yeah, that should work. Calista241 Nov 2015 #54

The issue is national. Some blue state Democrat needn't worry, but purple state Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #62

I agree completely. Imo, guns are a very bad issue for us. Calista241 Nov 2015 #80

Between Hillary and the actions of the DNC, I would not be surprised to see picketing as close to merrily Nov 2015 #57

it requires candidates that excite people tk2kewl Nov 2015 #25

more of the i need to be dazzled to vote - saturnsring Nov 2015 #28

people need something to vote for IMO tk2kewl Nov 2015 #29

how about keeping what little you have isnt that something to vote for saturnsring Nov 2015 #31

That is not what is being offered. jeff47 Nov 2015 #34

not voting isnt gonna solve any of that. oh well lookee here The election�s No. 1 issue was healthca saturnsring Nov 2015 #38

Continuous failure should make the Democrats realize they need to change course. jeff47 Nov 2015 #41

how has that worked so far saturnsring Nov 2015 #44

Well, voting for Republican-lite sure hasn't helped. jeff47 Nov 2015 #49

even if our candidates suck *I'm* still gonna vote for them tk2kewl Nov 2015 #45

It requires nothing more than personal conviction... LanternWaste Nov 2015 #51

well... a lot of folks do not have that conviction tk2kewl Nov 2015 #63

Last election Beshear won with only a 28.6% turnout. Big Blue Marble Nov 2015 #35

yet more proof that if clinton is the nom restorefreedom Nov 2015 #39

That's my biggest fear. Vinca Nov 2015 #48

i think a trump presidency is a real possibility too. nt restorefreedom Nov 2015 #53

a lot of Obama voters have lost that excitement Skittles Nov 2015 #55

Yes. That's why we shouldn't 840high Nov 2015 #90

Yep. We can thank Hillary, DWS, and the other Third Way DINOs backscatter712 Nov 2015 #72

they will be ready for a movie or american idol restorefreedom Nov 2015 #78

31% for an election that is neither a Presidential nor a mid term is not bad, relatively speaking. merrily Nov 2015 #56

We need to see the return of Gov. Dean. Kingofalldems Nov 2015 #59

Turnout was 28% in 2011 DemocraticWing Nov 2015 #60

In 2010 and 2014... kentuck Nov 2015 #77

if we don't increase voter turnout, the MINORITY will fucking rule this country. spanone Nov 2015 #71

they already do. its a plutocracy now restorefreedom Nov 2015 #79

And given what is at stack that is not a good idea for 2016. jwirr Nov 2015 #81

Kentuck you are absolutely correct. Tatiana Nov 2015 #95