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whereisjustice

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21. Conservative Democrats don't give a fuck if 2 or 3 more million jobs go to India and China and

Wed Nov 4, 2015, 10:06 PM

Nov 2015

now Vietnam with TPP. They'll claim that we don't need them anyway and it's your fault for not being a CEO or being born in an Asian hell hole.

A conservative Democrat is every bit as toxic as a Republican except that conservative Democrats are generally in favor of woman's right to chose and perhaps a few other social liberties. Other than that? Good luck finding a difference.

Neither one wants anything to change except more economic motion to the right.

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Obama's Big Lie about "renegotiating NAFTA" comes back to gut-punch laid-off Kraft/Heinz workers [View all] brentspeak Nov 2015 OP

Yea all Obama's fault Tommy2Tone Nov 2015 #1

The lie was. n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2015 #20

Curious the point? Tommy2Tone Nov 2015 #74

Yes, I guess I am. I dislike being lied to - particularly by people I trusted. n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2015 #75

Simply self-identifying as a Democrat fredamae Nov 2015 #78

I am a Democrat and I believe true Democrats hold their representatives accountable. rhett o rick Nov 2015 #81

Said nobody n/t arcane1 Nov 2015 #39

One of the closed plants is in my neck of the woods. Crap. WinkyDink Nov 2015 #2

Your link doesn't say anything about jobs going to Mexico. Like Krugman said, Hoyt Nov 2015 #3

Post removed Post removed Nov 2015 #4

if only ghosts did that. i would pay them. nt. JanMichael Nov 2015 #6

. Guy Whitey Corngood Nov 2015 #10

+1. hifiguy Nov 2015 #19

LOL! merrily Nov 2015 #66

That's not accurate davekriss Nov 2015 #14

I knew that "promise" was a lie hifiguy Nov 2015 #5

His comfortable walking shoes never made an appearance Drahthaardogs Nov 2015 #8

The best you can say about Obama and labor hifiguy Nov 2015 #11

And people wonder why so many of us aren't enthused for another Clinton presidency. Arugula Latte Nov 2015 #34

Eeyup. hifiguy Nov 2015 #36

....x10+ 840high Nov 2015 #55

He has NOT been strong on labor, and that, plus his TPP push whathehell Nov 2015 #83

yep. Phlem Nov 2015 #15

Well, it will be rammed down our throats hifiguy Nov 2015 #18

I agree with you totally. Phlem Nov 2015 #26

It's not being rammed down our throats....this baby is a suppository. yourout Nov 2015 #31

And it's big enough for a bull elephant. hifiguy Nov 2015 #33

k/r nationalize the fed Nov 2015 #7

Well that was a hifiguy Nov 2015 #12

The Republicans do it too. They just don't announce it. nt kelliekat44 Nov 2015 #51

Your link doesn't say anything about Mexico. While layoffs are bad, tough to blame on Obama. Hoyt Nov 2015 #9

That's the part I don't really get. Thor_MN Nov 2015 #54

This is Democratic Underground shenmue Nov 2015 #13

Oh that's right Phlem Nov 2015 #17

NO, how about question the people in charge. passiveporcupine Nov 2015 #46

Yep. Been there done that. The last straw was working for Mormons. Phlem Nov 2015 #56

We have the power of social media now. We never had that before. passiveporcupine Nov 2015 #60

Your solid man. I like you. Phlem Nov 2015 #62

Thanks...we all need to keep up the good fight passiveporcupine Nov 2015 #63

Exactly. Phlem Nov 2015 #64

So will I. 840high Nov 2015 #57

It's tough to tell with all the cheering for union busting, off shoring, healthcare profiteers, Doctor_J Nov 2015 #82

So those people posting here that want to alert, lock, hide and ban all that don't agree with their rhett o rick Nov 2015 #84

Heinz as in john kerry's wife Heinz? saturnsring Nov 2015 #16

Heinz was sold to Buffet's company Berkshire Hathaway & a South American company Omaha Steve Nov 2015 #23

Warren Buffett Quadrupled His Ketchup Investment Omaha Steve Nov 2015 #28

yeay Warren and BH investors! Phlem Nov 2015 #35

Many people have that stock in their 401ks, mutual funds, etc Omaha Steve Nov 2015 #37

probably more of the latter. Phlem Nov 2015 #38

Social Responsible Investing Can Be Profitable Too: 2 Funds to Buy - Mutual Fund Commentary Omaha Steve Nov 2015 #41

Thanks for that Steve. Phlem Nov 2015 #50

Your welcome Omaha Steve Nov 2015 #53

that's a lot of info thanks os saturnsring Nov 2015 #77

Teresa Heinz Kerry and her sons was NEVER involved with Heinz Corporation karynnj Nov 2015 #59

Conservative Democrats don't give a fuck if 2 or 3 more million jobs go to India and China and whereisjustice Nov 2015 #21

+100. nt whathehell Nov 2015 #22

Damn straight. hifiguy Nov 2015 #27

You obviously don't know what's going Phlem Nov 2015 #32

From the February 2009 debates: bhikkhu Nov 2015 #40

... Phlem Nov 2015 #49

Not that Hillary is different, rather that circumstances changed bhikkhu Nov 2015 #73

Amen. appalachiablue Nov 2015 #69

TPP *is* a re-negotiation of NAFTA Recursion Nov 2015 #24

NAFTA is an agreement between Canada, USA and Mexico. jwirr Nov 2015 #42

But the US, Mexico, and Canada are in it, so if it passes it replaces NAFTA Recursion Nov 2015 #44

Shhh Egnever Nov 2015 #65

Changing the terms of our trade with Canada and Mexico is, apparently, not "renegotiating" them pampango Nov 2015 #70

Especially amusing is that opposing the TPP means fighting for... NAFTA. Recursion Nov 2015 #71

And where is there anything about Mexico in that article? (nt) Recursion Nov 2015 #25

The article says the jobs are being moved to Mexico. jwirr Nov 2015 #43

Uhh... no. Recursion Nov 2015 #45

No, the OP's title says that. The article does not. Hoyt Nov 2015 #47

What? passiveporcupine Nov 2015 #48

It's not clear *any* factory is taking on more employees Recursion Nov 2015 #68

So how much of a raise is Kraft/Heinz CEO going to get out of this? Initech Nov 2015 #29

You already know the answer. Phlem Nov 2015 #30

Now this is a big lie. nt kelliekat44 Nov 2015 #52

How could he have gotten a renegotiated treaty through Congress? pnwmom Nov 2015 #58

How do you know he even tried? 840high Nov 2015 #61

I'm not the one saying he's a liar. I'm the one asking for the evidence. n/t pnwmom Nov 2015 #67

Well, I mean, by all signs he's about to. Recursion Nov 2015 #72

He's about to. jeff47 Nov 2015 #79

The cuts are in management from what I've read, not factory workers. blm Nov 2015 #76

They're closing the factory. Where would the workers do their jobs? (nt) jeff47 Nov 2015 #80