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That Guy 888

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184. So in other words, you don't have any proof.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 06:03 AM
Nov 2015

Here's my google search for "Howard Dean" 50 "State Strategy"


http://www.governing.com/blogs/politics/gov-democrat-howard-deans-fifty-state-strategy.html

Looking Back at Howard Dean's 50-State Strategy
Despite opposition from national Democrats, the former Vermont governor's bid to build up party infrastructure in every state was a success in the unlikeliest of places -- at least while it lasted.
by Louis Jacobson | May 6, 2013
When former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean became chairman of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) in early 2005, one of his main efforts was to undertake a "50-state strategy," a bid to build up party infrastructure and candidate recruitment at every level and in every state -- even in solidly Republican bastions.
"We strengthened the parties so sitting governors could find good candidates" for offices high and low, Dean said. "That's much easier to do from Topeka than it is from Washington."
State party chairs loved the idea, but among national strategists, the approach was controversial. Dean bumped heads with then-Rep. Rahm Emanuel, the chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, who believed in a more conventional strategy of focusing limited campaign resources on swing districts. On CNN, Paul Begala said Dean's gambit amounted to "hiring a bunch of staff people to wander around Utah and Mississippi and pick their nose." (Begala later apologized.)
Dean has long since left the DNC -- he served four years, departing in early 2009 -- and the 50-state strategy has faded from memories. But looking at it from today's vantage point, the project offers a nifty example of how modest investments in party infrastructure can pay tangible dividends -- and how those dividends can disappear once the investments dry up.


Wot? I thought the 50 State Strategy never ended. Ahh I guess cutting the amount of funding is different from canceling

http://www.fairvote.org/research-and-analysis/blog/the-real-november-election-showdown-howard-deans-50-state-strategy-vs-rahm-emmanuels-traditional-approach/
The Real November Election Showdown: Howard Dean's 50-State Strategy vs. Rahm Emmanuel's Traditional Approach
by David Moon // Published November 7, 2006
Dean vs. Emmanuel: When former Vermont governor Howard Dean took the helm of the Democratic National Committee, he made a strategic decision to pump resources into all 50 states, in an attempt to build the Democratic Party in places where it hasn"t been competitive in presidential races and most federal races for years. His so-called "50-state strategy" has been the source of much controversy, leading to Dean"s public battles with Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee Chair Rahm Emanuel, who favors focused spending on targeted races. Many think the results of tonights election results will indicate which party leader had the right approach. Not so fast....


http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cifamerica/2008/nov/11/barack-obama-howard-dean-democrats
The redemption of Howard Dean
Ari Berman
Barack Obama's victory is proof that the DNC chair's 50-state strategy has revitalised the Democratic party
Tuesday 11 November 2008 11.00 EST Last modified on Saturday 4 October 2014 09.58 E
Indiana, North Carolina and Virginia are not states that Democrats normally win in presidential elections. Nor are Idaho or Alabama places where they customarily pick up congressional seats. And the unlikeliest rub of all: these Democratic takeovers in formerly red America were partially engineered by the recent governor of one of the bluest states in the country, Vermont.
Howard Dean inherited a moribund, disorganised and dispirited party when he became chair of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) in February 2005. He patiently rebuilt the party from the bottom up, state by state, organiser by organiser. His 50-state strategy, as it came to be known, helped pave the way for the party's takeover of Congress in 2006, expanded majority in 2008 and Barack Obama's historic election.

Dean, who announced on Monday that he would step down as DNC chair at the end of his term in January, was vilified by much of the Washington establishment when he inherited the job. His presidential campaign in 2004 was viewed as a massive flameout after he came in third in the Iowa caucus - a loss punctuated by the infamous, media-manufactured "Dean scream" - and he possessed few of the insider connections that mark most DNC chairs. Yet Dean's unorthodox presidential campaign and DNC chairmanship in many ways laid the foundation for Obama's improbably candidacy.


http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/01/magazine/01dean.html?pagewanted=all
The Inside Agitator

By MATT BAI
Published: October 1, 2006
Not all states are equal on an election map, and Alaska is one of those less populous states — like Kansas or Idaho or Alabama — that national Democrats almost never bother to visit. For one thing, just getting there presents a logistical ordeal: the journey from Washington takes as long as it would to reach, say, Nigeria, and even then you sometimes need a hydroplane to get around. And more to the point, there aren’t a whole lot of people to see once you get there. Registered Republicans outnumber Democrats by a margin of 2 to 1 in oil-crazed Alaska, which hasn’t sent a Democrat to the House or Senate in more than 30 years. To put it another way, there were more Democrats in Central Park for the Dave Matthews concert a few years back than there are in the entire state of Alaska — all 656,000 square miles of it.

It seemed somewhat bizarre, then, when Howard Dean, the chairman of the Democratic National Committee, chose to make the long odyssey to Alaska at the end of May, near what was the beginning of one of the most intense and closely contested national election campaigns in memory, when every other Democrat in Washington was talking about potentially decisive states like Ohio, Pennsylvania and Connecticut. It was also strange that no one in Democratic Washington seemed to know he was going. Although I had been following Dean closely for months, I found out about the trip accidentally and invited myself along — an intrusion that Dean seemed merely to tolerate. We met up first in Las Vegas, where he was making appearances with Harry Reid, the Senate minority leader. Dean, who enjoys his image as an unpretentious New Englander, is given to finding his own flights on discount Web sites, so it’s sometimes hard for even his own staff to track his itinerary. On the morning we left for Alaska, Dean went missing for a good half-hour. It turned out that he was in the business center of the MGM Grand, where he had been trying to figure out how to print his boarding pass but somehow ended up in an impromptu game of online backgammon with a guy who claimed to be in China.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/25/AR2008082502463.html
Dean's 50-State Strategy Continues to Generate Debate
Howard Dean, chairman of the Democratic National Committee, turns over the convention gavel to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi in Denver. (By Preston Keres -- The Washington Post)
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By Jonathan Weisman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, August 26, 2008
DENVER, Aug. 25 -- When Howard Dean officially opened the Democratic National Convention on Monday night, he could look with satisfaction at the assembled delegates from all 50 states, knowing that many more states are in play this campaign season than were before he took over the party.
"Looking out from this podium tonight, I see this diverse assembly of Democrats as a testament to the strength and unity of our party and the fruition of our 50-state strategy," the party chairman told the throng as he gaveled the convention to session. "While the Democratic Party is the oldest continuing party in the world, I can also see that we are the most vibrant, inclusive and energized party, and we are ready to compete in all 50 states in November.


http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=96956854
Dean Explains The Democrats' '50-State Strategy'
November 13, 200812:29 PM ET
Howard Dean, former presidential candidate and chairman of the Democratic National Committee, implemented the "50-State Strategy" to help the Democrats win big in 2008 — and it appears to have worked.
The "50-State Strategy" doesn't just focus on swing states and it doesn't write states off as "unwinnable." Instead, the goal is to campaign throughout the country, and win elections from the ground up.


http://truth-out.org/archive/component/k2/item/66811:howard-deans-50state-strategy-pays-off
Howard Dean's 50-State Strategy Pays Off
Monday, 13 November 2006 04:23 by: Anonymous
Howard Dean's 50-State Strategy Pays Off
By Scott Galindez
t r u t h o u t | Perspective
Monday 13 November 2006
The chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC), Rahm Emanuel, stormed out of Democratic National Committee (DNC) chairman Howard Dean's office in May after an expletive-filled tirade against the DNC's spending too much money, too early, in "non-battleground states." Emanuel was concerned the DNC would be broke and not on the playing field in November. The opposite was true, and the playing field was larger due to the early investment.


See a real 50 State Strategy has plenty of visibility.

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Agreed. The Democratic Party needs to get its act together. yardwork Nov 2015 #1
Looks like the "We are not quite as bad as Republicans" strategy... bvar22 Nov 2015 #90
Good point, but I think it's even worse than that Populist_Prole Nov 2015 #95
Wage disparity. The Democratic Party does not offer a rrealistic solution to that problem. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #124
They do offer realistic solutions but then they allow the GOP to frame the issue dishonestly. kelliekat44 Nov 2015 #189
I agree DWS needs to go, but the KY result like many others Stevepol Nov 2015 #122
I'm worried about the vote counting, too. yardwork Nov 2015 #128
Yes. Why? Enthusiast Nov 2015 #136
Because they don't really care about winning? BuelahWitch Nov 2015 #183
Believe me, I have considered that possibility. Enthusiast Nov 2015 #185
Why doesn't the Democratic Party hack into the machines and flip 'em over to Democratic votes? NBachers Nov 2015 #153
The grass-roots Democrats need to get our act together and stand up against the rhett o rick Nov 2015 #163
As far as I can tell, all of our local Dem candidates lost. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2015 #2
Some days I often think the DNC is a code name for the RNC!!! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2015 #102
Or the Do Nothing Committee. KamaAina Nov 2015 #132
There's plenty of cash. hifiguy Nov 2015 #108
You mean HRC, right? KamaAina Nov 2015 #133
"Vell, IT AIN'T hifiguy Nov 2015 #134
I took that to mean Thespian2 Nov 2015 #143
Rs won big in my town. bigwillq Nov 2015 #3
Not all bad Freddie Nov 2015 #4
Maine Clean Elections referendum question passed Zing Zing Zingbah Nov 2015 #9
Florida passed a referendum in 2010 to end gerrymandering. So far, nothing has changed. Lochloosa Nov 2015 #12
One of the problems (in Florida as well as other states) 1939 Nov 2015 #41
There were two measures on the ballot. Both past. Lochloosa Nov 2015 #44
That is the problem 1939 Nov 2015 #68
Same With Michigan NonMetro Nov 2015 #57
My district was blue when I first moved here..... llmart Nov 2015 #135
Those were nice consolations, however... BlueDemKev Nov 2015 #152
Maybe we should be even more preachy and condescending to rural conservative voters Recursion Nov 2015 #5
Maybe we should give the voters a real choice..... daleanime Nov 2015 #22
An excellent suggestion Doubledee Nov 2015 #81
Like I have said before. WHEN CRABS ROAR Nov 2015 #110
The why is obvious Doubledee Nov 2015 #193
PLUS ONE, a huge bunch! Enthusiast Nov 2015 #137
Are you suggesting that being condescending to them as individuals while insulting their culture Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2015 #25
I know, you're right Recursion Nov 2015 #26
"Clearly they just need to be preached at until they realize what their interests actually are." Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2015 #32
The repugs play chess while we play checkers... luvspeas Nov 2015 #6
Elections are run by the States. My State has zero 'voting machines' but yours does. Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #40
Probably because your 7 little electoral votes don't matter as much as the top 6 electoral vote luvspeas Nov 2015 #66
Part of the problem is that we have great depths of support, but no breadth. Zynx Nov 2015 #7
What do you want the DNC to do? Assassinate right-wing billionaires? Hortensis Nov 2015 #8
There's a concept called The 50 State Strategy KeepItReal Nov 2015 #10
Ah, snap! If only... We would never have had Fox, never had the Kochs Hortensis Nov 2015 #13
Nope. The 50 state strategy is still in effect Recursion Nov 2015 #28
IDK, having one web page saying that you have a 50 state strategy doesn't mean you actually do n/t That Guy 888 Nov 2015 #48
But, they actually do it. Do you know what it is? Recursion Nov 2015 #52
Dean's 50 state strategy was very visible That Guy 888 Nov 2015 #56
You mean the webpage isn't as good? I agree; Dean had a much better web team Recursion Nov 2015 #146
No, I mean Dean made more of a visible effort to recruit new volunteers. That Guy 888 Nov 2015 #147
That's a great thing, but doesn't particularly relate to the 50 state strategy Recursion Nov 2015 #149
I hear "50 State Strategy", but see n-o-t-h-i-n-g That Guy 888 Nov 2015 #156
There's not a "new" or "old" 50 state strategy. It's the same thing. Recursion Nov 2015 #161
The 50 State Strategy of Howard Dean was ended in 2010 do we at least agree on that? That Guy 888 Nov 2015 #165
I don't remotely agree Recursion Nov 2015 #166
Provide links to prove you're right That Guy 888 Nov 2015 #167
Done Recursion Nov 2015 #168
Circular argumant That Guy 888 Nov 2015 #169
I linked you the book Recursion Nov 2015 #170
New York Times is not a blog That Guy 888 Nov 2015 #172
No, it did not end Recursion Nov 2015 #173
Where - Are - Your - Links? That Guy 888 Nov 2015 #174
Volunteers mean a great deal in my state Admiral Loinpresser Nov 2015 #160
What specifically are you saying has changed? (nt) Recursion Nov 2015 #162
Was your statement incorrect? That Guy 888 Nov 2015 #175
I still don't understand your question Recursion Nov 2015 #176
It's very clear That Guy 888 Nov 2015 #177
You mean other than the official statement on the party's website? Recursion Nov 2015 #178
I'm curious, why can't you just give a straight answer? That Guy 888 Nov 2015 #179
Because your question makes no sense Recursion Nov 2015 #180
You're the one making claims with no proof That Guy 888 Nov 2015 #181
Look, you clearly have your own definition of it Recursion Nov 2015 #182
So in other words, you don't have any proof. That Guy 888 Nov 2015 #184
When Dean was chair Admiral Loinpresser Nov 2015 #186
And your claim is that that has stopped? (nt) Recursion Nov 2015 #187
Yes. Admiral Loinpresser Nov 2015 #188
Thank you. That's the kind of concrete example I've been asking for. Recursion Nov 2015 #191
You're welcome. I admire your persistence. Admiral Loinpresser Nov 2015 #192
Well, all I can say is that I sympathize Recursion Nov 2015 #194
Whoops! Admiral Loinpresser Nov 2015 #195
No worries Recursion Nov 2015 #196
You just can't tell some folks. They Know It All. MADem Nov 2015 #55
Problem with 50 state strategy lancer78 Nov 2015 #53
Sorry, but that's my point maxrandb Nov 2015 #11
Well I certainly agree with your example of how it works. And that is a Hortensis Nov 2015 #19
Most Democratic voters are not motivated by hatred. jeff47 Nov 2015 #69
Just who is supposed to give you a reason to vote. upaloopa Nov 2015 #129
You left out two words: ...reason to vote _for them_. jeff47 Nov 2015 #141
In that case... BlueDemKev Nov 2015 #157
Lol jeff47 Nov 2015 #159
Do you actually believe... BlueDemKev Nov 2015 #198
When Democrats provide not much more than a speed bump jeff47 Nov 2015 #199
I agree 100% BlueDemKev Nov 2015 #154
Or, crazier still... Mister Ed Nov 2015 #14
It's still in effect Recursion Nov 2015 #29
That's good to know. Are they still working the program the way they did before? Mister Ed Nov 2015 #109
Money is still flowing to the hinterland. That's the problem as well as the plan. Recursion Nov 2015 #171
Thanks n/t Mister Ed Nov 2015 #197
This is my fear FrostyAusty Nov 2015 #15
Whereas they attack Bernie on his socialism (issue-based); with Hillary its personal vilification. JudyM Nov 2015 #30
Thank you! FrostyAusty Nov 2015 #62
+1! Enthusiast Nov 2015 #139
Oh I think Hillary PatSeg Nov 2015 #121
Agreed FrostyAusty Nov 2015 #131
A lot of people PatSeg Nov 2015 #151
Welcome to DU, FrostyAusty mascarax Nov 2015 #190
Yep. Start with DWS,she's useless. Bring back Howard Dean! sufrommich Nov 2015 #16
She has to go PatSeg Nov 2015 #119
What's the % Voter Turnout? Martin Eden Nov 2015 #17
I think it's mostly about ease of participation. 2014 we had 70% turnout, which was low for us. Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #42
That's definitely part of it. Martin Eden Nov 2015 #45
Great post Martin angrychair Nov 2015 #49
Thanks a-c Martin Eden Nov 2015 #96
Some of this is because of the DNC and other factors but I think in some cases ..... Botany Nov 2015 #18
Polls are a gage, but polls can never ensure turn out yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #61
But there is too much apathy PumpkinAle Nov 2015 #20
It's not the fault of the DNC. I'm 67 and have seen this country go from post-WWII glory to sinkingfeeling Nov 2015 #21
There was a guy on the Fark live thread for Kentucky sufrommich Nov 2015 #24
I'm sure your plan of hurling insults will increase turnout any time now. jeff47 Nov 2015 #70
Well said, and being 73, I too have traveled from those days of protest to what we have now, apathy! dmosh42 Nov 2015 #75
And their deliberate big fix to have Hillary elected is the worst of all. DrBulldog Nov 2015 #23
Yep n/t SmittynMo Nov 2015 #50
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In Colorado, conservative school board members were recalled, and it was the media mountain grammy Nov 2015 #31
This is disgusting to say the least................................... turbinetree Nov 2015 #33
After 12 years of repug rule the Democrats have taken control of our town... Bonhomme Richard Nov 2015 #34
Like I have said before. WHEN CRABS ROAR Nov 2015 #112
This may sound too easy and smug, but rtracey Nov 2015 #35
you forgot Off Year. Another Non-presidential election year, another loss. librechik Nov 2015 #36
We live in the most reality Wall St will allow. raouldukelives Nov 2015 #37
Oh, spare me the crocodile tears over Kentucky, where an anti-gay Fundie on the Democratic Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #38
The radical left sits it out yet again. eom MohRokTah Nov 2015 #39
The 'radical left' in Kentucky? Home of Kim Davis Democrats? Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #47
I'm sure your attacks on them will get them to the polls next time!! (nt) jeff47 Nov 2015 #72
Yes, I saw the "Left" sleeping it off in a de-commissioned phone booth outside Ocala. Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #100
I'm sure you will see that again with Hillary's election. L0oniX Nov 2015 #106
If you need the "radical left" to win, you have a strange way to show it. SolutionisSolidarity Nov 2015 #126
I love this MFrohike Nov 2015 #150
DWS will run for Florida Gov on 2018 NYCButterfinger Nov 2015 #43
DWS believes that The Party, especially some members of The Party..... bvar22 Nov 2015 #94
So the Republican primary there will pretty much decide the winner madville Nov 2015 #140
I share your pain. : ( MBS Nov 2015 #46
"Beyond Dystopian Visions in the Age of Neoliberal Authoritarianism" fredamae Nov 2015 #51
The first thing I thought when I looked at the election results was that we truly live in a... ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2015 #63
I had a similar thoughts and fredamae Nov 2015 #64
Yes, the OP. I was trying to formulate the words in my head to possibly post myself but... ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2015 #71
Fear and despair are common driving political tools these days fredamae Nov 2015 #77
It is really, truly exhausting. And everything else you said. I want to run as fast as I can away ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2015 #85
Sometimes "Shutting Everything Off" for fredamae Nov 2015 #87
Some good electiopn news :) fredamae Nov 2015 #92
DWS has to be expelled from the DNC. Immediately. DinahMoeHum Nov 2015 #54
Yes there are losers every week on Dancing With the Stars... luvspeas Nov 2015 #82
ttt Blue_Tires Nov 2015 #58
Let's just be frank c-ville rook Nov 2015 #59
You are correct moose65 Nov 2015 #148
I live in Florida. As far as I am concerned, a ringing endorsement from Debbie DINO usually means djean111 Nov 2015 #60
DINO! luvspeas Nov 2015 #80
We won in New Jersey and when it's time to elect a governor again Walk away Nov 2015 #65
If a corporate Democrat is elected governor in New Jersey you will be electing... stillwaiting Nov 2015 #76
If the Democratic party starts running Socialists in New Jersey.... Walk away Nov 2015 #88
And what can be done RandySF Nov 2015 #67
He is not taking away everybody's health care, just poor people's. totodeinhere Nov 2015 #83
Democrats Lost Power 25 Years Ago For Several Reasons: NonMetro Nov 2015 #73
Reagan Democrats n/t fredamae Nov 2015 #84
Yup, and now they're called "New" Democrats or "Progressives", Even Though They're Not. NonMetro Nov 2015 #86
Yep-And anyone who wants to know fredamae Nov 2015 #89
...this is one of the reasons why I don't trust the Clintons. They are good friends with DWS... Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2015 #74
What does Dancing With the Stars have to do with this? luvspeas Nov 2015 #78
Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Chair of the DNC. Hopefully you were just teasing me. Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2015 #79
For years the Dem's have tried to be "Not as bad as the other guy". harun Nov 2015 #91
I've voted for the lesser for too 840high Nov 2015 #93
Running to represent such voters means you have to run on representing them Babel_17 Nov 2015 #97
Disgusted stevieme Nov 2015 #98
the rightward turn 1988-94 was always framed as a way to guarantee a money stream MisterP Nov 2015 #99
DWS...Worthless. SoapBox Nov 2015 #101
The Dem Powers that Be (WERE) couldn't STAND Howard Dean, elleng Nov 2015 #103
So, I gather that the kentucky ballots had you both casting a vote for governor and others drray23 Nov 2015 #104
Where was the millennial Bernie revolutionary army? workinclasszero Nov 2015 #105
The first person to blame is the utterly useless and hifiguy Nov 2015 #107
of course DonCoquixote Nov 2015 #111
"Jobbers" hifiguy Nov 2015 #113
"piece of human sewage" joshcryer Nov 2015 #114
She refuses to campaign against or even endorse hifiguy Nov 2015 #115
This blame game is precious. joshcryer Nov 2015 #116
The person at the wheel of the ship hifiguy Nov 2015 #118
This culture of cynicism is the problem. joshcryer Nov 2015 #120
She is a shrieking incompetent hifiguy Nov 2015 #123
Yeah right, Dean's blue dog strategy... joshcryer Nov 2015 #125
The GOP is on a war path Truprogressive85 Nov 2015 #117
Bad things happen when Democratic voters do not vote. guillaumeb Nov 2015 #127
Hear, hear. SpankMe Nov 2015 #130
Perhaps we should run on those issues instead of running from them jeff47 Nov 2015 #142
I guess Pennsylvania, the sixth most populous state in the Union, doesn't count? blue neen Nov 2015 #138
I've resigned myself Madmiddle Nov 2015 #144
Hillary brings trickle-down economics back into vogue - everything old (and conservative) is new! whereisjustice Nov 2015 #145
Dem mayor won in my city. And she is a woman Tipperary Nov 2015 #155
Local Politics houston16revival Nov 2015 #158
DNC dinos would rather lose than support progressives. leveymg Nov 2015 #164
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