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Octafish

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87. The CIA Admitted To Lying About JFK’s Assassination, But No One Really Noticed
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 11:27 AM
Nov 2015
The motorcade in Dallas, Nov. 22, 1963...



From a very good overview:



Oh, Hey! The CIA Admitted To Lying About JFK’s Assassination, But No One Really Noticed

BY: BEA KAYE
Upproxx, 11.02.15

After the Bay of Pigs fiasco in the early ’60s, John F. Kennedy forced out then-director of the CIA, Allen Dulles, replacing him with engineer John McCone. McCone was an outsider to the “boy’s club” at the CIA, and Kennedy hoped the new director might shake things up and bring a fresh perspective to the organization. When Kennedy was assassinated, McCone faced the Warren Commission as the chief proponent of the Lone Gunman theory — the assertion that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone.

In September of 2014, 50 years after his death, the CIA released a classified document related to the investigation into the Kennedy assassination. It concedes that more than 70 percent of the American public believes Kennedy’s death was part of a larger conspiracy, and admits that McCone kept a lot of information secret that could have aided the commission’s investigation.

CIA historian David Robarge included this classified report with his biography of John McCone, who died in 1991. The biography is still unpublished, but the CIA has gone public with the report in order “to highlight misconceptions about the CIA’s connection to JFK’s assassination” (according to their statement to POLITICO).

Chief among the facts that were never brought to light during the hearings were the multiple assassination attempts of Fidel Castro by the CIA, and even the mafia, which could have led to the possibility of a retaliation on Cuba’s part. Undocumented conversations took place after JFK’s death between attorney general Robert Kennedy and McCone; Robert Kennedy’s awareness of the CIA’s attempts on Castro’s life makes it difficult to conclude he wasn’t also afraid that Cuba had a part in his brother’s death. The attempts on Castro’s life were later made public in the ’70s, but this declassified document adds new background information to the commonly accepted idea that the CIA knew more about Kennedy’s murder than they told us.

One example of CIA obfuscation: The agency was apparently tracking Oswald before 1963, after he tried to defect to the Soviet Union in the ’50s. It was part of an incredibly illegal operation called HTLINGUAL that had the CIA opening people’s mail. It’s obvious why the agency wouldn’t want that to come out during a murder investigation. It also demonstrates a knowledge of a known threat in Oswald, years before the agency says he “went rogue” and killed Kennedy:

Max Holland, one of the most fair minded scholars of these events, has concluded that “if the word ‘conspiracy’ must be uttered in the same breath as ‘Kennedy assassination,’ the only one that existed was the conspiracy to kill Castro and then keep that effort secret after November 22nd.” In that sense – and that sense alone – McCone may be regarded as a “co-conspirator” in the JFK assassination “cover-up.”


CONTINUED w/loads o' links...

http://uproxx.com/life/2015/11/jfk-lying-cia-conspiracy/2/



PS: You are welcome, Bobcat! Thank you for caring about this important history we are living.

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This is no surprise. Even back in the day, there were very few Arkansas Granny Oct 2015 #1
Remarkable, considering how Corporate McPravda has only played the lone nut tune since Nov. 22, 1963 Octafish Oct 2015 #5
K & R MoreGOPoop Oct 2015 #15
The Safari Club Octafish Nov 2015 #85
"Deep State" MoreGOPoop Nov 2015 #90
I have never believed that the two assinations were a jwirr Oct 2015 #30
Absolutely, jwirr: The nation and world have not been the same since. Octafish Nov 2015 #86
I know and thank you for this info. I wonder what we would jwirr Nov 2015 #88
I never did. I was 22 when JFK was killed. trof Oct 2015 #45
was it not commonly known in 1963 that the CIA worked with the mafia? GreatGazoo Oct 2015 #2
No. Neither were the CIA-Mafia assassination contracts on Castro and Cuban leadership. Octafish Oct 2015 #6
Thank You Bobcat Oct 2015 #11
The CIA Admitted To Lying About JFK’s Assassination, But No One Really Noticed Octafish Nov 2015 #87
K & R !!! WillyT Oct 2015 #3
What President Truman wrote about CIA very much concerned Allen Dulles... Octafish Oct 2015 #8
Duh! malaise Oct 2015 #4
Prescott Bush wrote to Clover Dulles... Octafish Oct 2015 #26
Thanks Octafish malaise Oct 2015 #29
You are most welcome, malaise! Octafish Oct 2015 #38
Important info crucial to understanding today's deep state. K&R! nt riderinthestorm Oct 2015 #7
The Origins of the Overclass Octafish Oct 2015 #39
Recommended. panader0 Oct 2015 #9
CIA hid Mafia assassination program by claiming ''Top Secret'' Octafish Oct 2015 #40
JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters IDemo Oct 2015 #10
That video.... CanSocDem Oct 2015 #32
I believe Gerald Ford said before he died lovuian Oct 2015 #12
A book deal thing... Octafish Oct 2015 #50
For a change this won't get locked as conspiracy Omaha Steve Oct 2015 #13
The issue is truth. Octafish Oct 2015 #18
OMG, not again! Getting old! Nt Logical Oct 2015 #20
That's your opinion. Octafish Oct 2015 #24
Oswald did it but keep up the dream. Nt Logical Oct 2015 #25
That's what Allen Dulles and J Edgar Hoover said. Octafish Oct 2015 #27
OH FFS, i get it that CTs are fun, but give it up! Nt Logical Oct 2015 #28
I won't give up, as I think perpetrators are still at large. Octafish Oct 2015 #34
LOL! I find it funny how sad some are here that they cannot allow others to talk Rex Oct 2015 #41
+1 dmr Oct 2015 #70
Then just keep fucking scrolling Oilwellian Oct 2015 #68
Lol, there is a dedicated forum for this stuff. Lok for it. Nt Logical Oct 2015 #72
is it not appropriate discussion restorefreedom Oct 2015 #78
I found John Davis' "Mafia Kingfisher: Carlos Marcello and the and the Assassination of John F. ... Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #58
"What the agency believed was the 'best truth' whathehell Oct 2015 #14
THAT is the crux of the dilemma: Secret Government does not trump the Constitution. Octafish Oct 2015 #35
We were lying before, but we're telling the truth now. Honest. Case closed. Karmadillo Oct 2015 #16
My Q: If they obstructed justice in the context of the JFK assassination... Octafish Oct 2015 #37
K&R Go Vols Oct 2015 #17
One of the most complete reports on the story... Octafish Oct 2015 #49
No wonder he did that. lonestarnot Oct 2015 #19
POLITICO as the fountainhead is interesting, too. Octafish Oct 2015 #52
It really doesn't matter unless McCone suppressed material evidence struggle4progress Oct 2015 #21
Which is exactly what McCone did. Octafish Oct 2015 #53
Re: this conspiracy theory... YoungDemCA Oct 2015 #22
Consistent with Talbot’s claims JFK’s policies did pose a dire threat to “deep power” interests MinM Oct 2015 #33
I cannot wait to read that book. hifiguy Oct 2015 #42
JFK v Allen W Dulles part ii MinM Oct 2015 #51
K&R! Thanks for the thread, octafish! Also, thanks for your tireless dedication to exposing the Ghost in the Machine Oct 2015 #23
McCone had ties to Reagan Octafish Oct 2015 #60
Where is your...ahem!...fan club? nt ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2015 #31
They pretend I'm supposed to side with Dean Wormer. Octafish Oct 2015 #61
Allen Dulles, the very man Kennedy fired for the Bay of Pigs fiasco hifiguy Oct 2015 #36
Dulles knew Bay of Pigs Operation was COMPROMISED, yet gave it his blessing... Octafish Oct 2015 #62
A JFK post on October 14?! KamaAina Oct 2015 #43
You don't like JFK? Octafish Oct 2015 #63
Love him, but DU's annual JFK-fest doesn't usually start intil next month KamaAina Oct 2015 #66
Thanks, KamaAina! Octafish Oct 2015 #67
N.B. The Moonies now own UPI. KamaAina Oct 2015 #44
(U) DCI John McCone and the Assassination of President John F. Kennedy - David Robarge Octafish Oct 2015 #46
UPI MinM Oct 2015 #48
k & r & thanks! Ignore the anti-truth brigade here as I do wildbilln864 Oct 2015 #47
Justice stepped up for Plutocracy Octafish Oct 2015 #65
The Murder of JFK: Another Puzzle Piece Solved eridani Oct 2015 #54
''...the JFK case is being solved, thanks largely to the brute force of the power of the Internet.'' Octafish Oct 2015 #55
The Murder of JFK, Part 2: Counterfeit ID Planted in Oswald's Wallet? eridani Oct 2015 #56
When was the planted wallet discussed in Warren Report or on television? Octafish Oct 2015 #71
k&r nt bananas Oct 2015 #57
Winchester 2525 Octafish Oct 2015 #69
What's Winchester 2525? bananas Oct 2015 #79
Exactly: Fusing Winchester '73 and ''In the Year 2525''... Octafish Oct 2015 #80
The JFK, RFK, Hoover, Mob connections may hit Broadway soon.... Gloria Oct 2015 #59
Seymour Hersh got taken in by someone foisting disinformation. Octafish Oct 2015 #73
Reznikoff and Hersh hoodwinked by fake documents | The Education Forum MinM Oct 2015 #74
''He made mistakes he didn't know he could make...(or)...suspect.'' Octafish Oct 2015 #76
Play's run is over...btw, it touched on how the Gloria Oct 2015 #77
A 'benign cover up'...wow they sling the bullshit fast and hard! Rex Oct 2015 #64
Escalation of hypotheses, each revealing more plausible deniability. Octafish Oct 2015 #75
k&r nt Electric Monk Oct 2015 #81
Lisa Pease: Checkmate on the Devil's Chessboard Octafish Nov 2015 #82
Operation Northwoods ohheckyeah Nov 2015 #83
DCI Dulles and JCS chair Lemnitzer counseled JFK launch all-out attack on USSR in 1961. Octafish Nov 2015 #84
Funny how one sentence ohheckyeah Nov 2015 #89
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