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monicaangela

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33. THANK YOU!
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 11:43 AM
Nov 2015

Thanks for taking the time to post all of this wonderful information. I especially like the way you intertwined your comment with pictures from High Plains Drifter etc. How do you add pictures and videos to comments on this site?

I know about all of the information you have posted here and am in agreement with your assessment of how terrible it is for this nation and the world. I don't believe the rest of the world is taking this laying down though. Many foreign countries have began fighting back by setting up their own intelligence services that counteract much of what the U.S. and the U.K. are doing. I look at this as an updated version of what took place centuries ago. You only need to read books that explain the days of colonialism, slavery, and even centuries before that back to the days of the Roman Empire and other empires that have come and gone to realize that what is happening is a continuation of the same.

The British government on Wednesday published a proposed new law to reform and dramatically expand surveillance powers in the United Kingdom. The 190-page Investigatory Powers Bill is thick with detail and it will probably take weeks and months of analysis until its full ramifications are understood. In the meantime, I’ve read through the bill and noted down a few key aspects of the proposed powers that stood out to me – including unprecedented new data retention measures, a loophole that allows spies to monitor journalists’ and their sources, powers enabling the government to conduct large-scale hacking operations, and more.

https://theintercept.com/2015/11/05/seven-major-takeaways-from-the-u-k-s-proposed-surveillance-rules/

I agree that those that were responsible for many of the disastrous things that have been perpetrated upon the globe, did not do these things without leaving a play book for their offspring. I believe they, just like all of the rest of us attempted to teach their kids to get ahead in the manner in which they did, even though what they did was atrocious as far as you and I are concerned, they somehow don't seem to see it that way. They think of it as progress, as early bird getting the worm, as being proactive and taking advantage of others before they take advantage of you rather than doing unto others as you would have them do unto you. The problem with counteracting this is as it was in days of old, complacency IMHO. As in the days of the Kings, Lords, and Serfs, although the serfs outnumbered the Kings and Lords and could have at any moment rebelled and changed their situation, they did nothing. It is the same today...just look at the turnout in recent elections, 20% voting here, 30% there, etc. Oh yes, I know, the recent election was not a General, a more or less off season election if you will, but as in the days of the serfs, if you don't participate in the government that has the power over your life, then you probably don't have a right to object when things go against your best interest in a terrible way.

Knowledge is a wonderful thing, knowing about oppression and oppressors helps one to understand why things are the way they are, it also leads one to believe that for some reason, those that perpetrate the crimes, and their offspring after them, somehow are more intelligent than the majority of people, are better con artist or, have gained the power over the lives of the majority through work opportunities, inequality where justice and freedom is concerned, and so many other ways that this board would fail to be able to stand up to the list.

The question is, how do we get the masses, or at least that infamous 99% of us to stand up and fight back, or at least begin to challenge the status quo. My answer to it is that we begin to forget our petty differences and unite. What's your answer? BTW, I will be reading your journals and may have questions from time to time if that is alright with you. Thanks again Octafish.

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Signs of the times..... Sherman A1 Nov 2015 #1
Exactly Sherman.. monicaangela Nov 2015 #13
I heard Thom Hartmann attribute this to Ilsa Nov 2015 #2
And this is feeding the white nationalist movement. Kablooie Nov 2015 #4
Well they better hurry with that ... Trajan Nov 2015 #28
I'd say it started with Reagan. moondust Nov 2015 #17
It might have been the beginning for many people. Ilsa Nov 2015 #18
But republicans wanting to raise SS retirement age say we are living longer? B Calm Nov 2015 #3
Which is a crock of shit - when you disregard lower childhood mortality, we've only gained MillennialDem Nov 2015 #8
Death rate "soars?" Really? Orrex Nov 2015 #5
I can't read the link to the WSJ since it appears to be premium content. TexasTowelie Nov 2015 #6
Weird--I was able to get right to it. Orrex Nov 2015 #7
Half a percent over 15 years? Yeah not so much. Half a percent annually over 15 years? Yes soaring MillennialDem Nov 2015 #9
If you got a 0.5% raise annually for 15 years, would you describe your income as "soaring?" Orrex Nov 2015 #11
Well, death rates in middle age should be going down (slightly). The fact that it is going up is MillennialDem Nov 2015 #14
"At this rate, non-whites might eventually start to be slightly less in the minority! The horror!" lumberjack_jeff Nov 2015 #21
Jayzus, that is horrifying. hifiguy Nov 2015 #30
^^^^ THIS ^^^^ Tarheel_Dem Nov 2015 #27
When contrasted to the decreasing death rates worldwide for other groups, Thor_MN Nov 2015 #31
"Only HIV/AIDS in contemporary times has done anything like this" - wrong, unfortunately GreatGazoo Nov 2015 #10
This is truly sad... monicaangela Nov 2015 #12
Monicaangel I agree. BUT for the election results that occured in KY bonniebgood Nov 2015 #15
My sentiments exactly bonniebgood monicaangela Nov 2015 #16
It isn't that people couldn't stand up and fight back, hifiguy Nov 2015 #19
Excellent Post!!! I have to say hear, hear monicaangela Nov 2015 #23
I've been riding this pony of actually READING HISTORY hifiguy Nov 2015 #25
They had monicaangela Nov 2015 #29
Same group who tried to overthrow FDR in 1933 had kids. Octafish Nov 2015 #32
THANK YOU! monicaangela Nov 2015 #33
Speak Art to Power Octafish Nov 2015 #34
You are welcome TexasTowelie Nov 2015 #20
I agree with your comment... monicaangela Nov 2015 #24
"I can imagine..." Shandris Nov 2015 #22
Vivid it is.. monicaangela Nov 2015 #26
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