Did FDR and other mid 20th century Democrats do nothing more than cage the beast?

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21. Yes they did.

And it's for that reason that almost every socialist I know (actual socialists, not Sanders' style welfare capitalists) is refusing to support Sanders.

It's pretty reasonable, imo. Sanders hasn't said a thing about the inherent inequality in the American political system. He still supports that system.

20-60 years from now, even if everything he wanted was passed, we'll be seeing the same problems we have now.

Again.

You can't regulate capitalism. It's a really stupid idea, honestly. Half the point of capitalism is that power accumulates (well, capital, anyways, which in a private property based society is power). Eventually, you will find yourself back where you begin regardless of all your good intentions.

The question is whether Sanders will be able to open up the general populace to a different system. So far, in my experience and evidenced by people like Kshama Sawant in Seattle, he has been able to begin that process.

Which is why at the moment I'm planning to vote for him. His value in getting people used to the idea of socialism, even if it has very little to do with actual socialism, is huge for me.

I very highly doubt he will change anything permanently. And he's barely talking about our racial caste system and the immense gender issues we still see today. He addresses a lot, but nowhere near enough.

I don't really expect that from him, though. That's a job for a later movement, possibly even one that springs from this run.

Best case scenario, he wins, and starts a viable third-party movement. I doubt that will happen, he's shown nothing but willingness to work with Democrats.

Worst case, he loses and tells everyone to vote for Clinton. It is very possible all of the current energy will be bled off into the Democratic party. Of course, that would also open up the opportunity for a third party movement after 8 more years of neoliberalism.

He might also win and pull an FDR, saving capitalism from itself. That's a very, very, very bad way to go. 50 years from now, when climate change, overpopulation and inequality all dwarf the same issues we face today, we're gonna be screwed if we try to change systems then. I have no idea what would happen. Other than I know we're going to have huge, violent, painful problems. We need to start that process as soon as we can, which means now.

As a socialist, if I am participating in Sanders' movement, I will be very clear that this is only the beginning. We cannot accept any form of capitalism except a temporary one as we move forwards.