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0rganism

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11. you're certainly more optimistic than me!

Mon Nov 9, 2015, 06:57 PM

Nov 2015

some of my memories from the W era are still fairly fresh. call me bitter if you like.

i remember how W was going to lose the 2000 election to the much more qualified and coherent Al Gore.

i remember how W was going to be an ineffective placeholder after his appointment, unable to do all but the most mundane evil in his ill-gotten time as a single-term prez who skated in on a questionable SC ruling.

and then he fucked up 9/11, got us into 2 wars, took credit for any and all counterterrorism activities, convinced the electorate that their safety was entirely in his hands, and won a second term by having his surrogates shit all over the record of a certified war hero.

we underestimate these consummate ratfuckers at our own peril.

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12 reasons it would be crazy not to vote for the Democratic Presidential nominee in Nov: [View all] pnwmom Nov 2015 OP

No Supreme Court nominations? Or is that implied by some of the other items? Gidney N Cloyd Nov 2015 #1

Thanks for the addition! I knew there would be more . pnwmom Nov 2015 #2

No "guaranteed" war world wide wally Nov 2015 #3

I thought you were going to show a picture of the republican candidates. pampango Nov 2015 #4

Good list, all very important to voters, it will be left to them to respond. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #5

Ultimately, SCOTS nomination is why I'm leaning Bernie in the elections... Bottoms_Up Nov 2015 #6

Bernie will be just as limited as Hillary based on the fact that any nominee pnwmom Nov 2015 #8

I agree that Hillary would have easier time of getting her top choices through a red senate. Bottoms_Up Nov 2015 #10

how about "single party Republican rule"? 0rganism Nov 2015 #7

We've neutered the repukes... ileus Nov 2015 #9

you're certainly more optimistic than me! 0rganism Nov 2015 #11

You're deluding yourself. They could easily steal another election. They control pnwmom Nov 2015 #13

I didn't say they couldn't win...I said there's nothing they can do with their power. ileus Nov 2015 #25

They have a 50/50 chance or better due to gerrymandering pnwmom Nov 2015 #30

And the voting machines KaryninMiami Nov 2015 #29

They are winning in the states and the Congress davidn3600 Nov 2015 #16

DEFINITELY add SCOTUS nominations MBS Nov 2015 #12

You should add free trade agreements to your list. jeff47 Nov 2015 #14

I can think of 16... joeybee12 Nov 2015 #15

I wish that were the case Martin Eden Nov 2015 #17

Yeah, let's look at the record on those jeff47 Nov 2015 #18

We wouldn't have Social Security or Medicare or Medicaid if it were up to the Rethugs. pnwmom Nov 2015 #19

If we had the party that passed those, I would have no complaints. jeff47 Nov 2015 #20

NO ONE in the current Democratic party has been pushing to end any of those programs. pnwmom Nov 2015 #21

Our party has been pushing for cuts in those programs as outlined above. jeff47 Nov 2015 #22

I don't support any cuts but that doesn't mean I can't see the vast gulf between pnwmom Nov 2015 #23

And if you were the only voter, that would be enough. jeff47 Nov 2015 #24

The control of the SCOTUS for the next generation is also an important issue Gothmog Nov 2015 #26

Then the DNC/DLC better start playing fair Android3.14 Nov 2015 #27

Riddle Me This - Why Does One Have To Forever Vote For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils cantbeserious Nov 2015 #28

Because otherwise it's letting the worst team win without even putting up a fight. pnwmom Nov 2015 #31

The end result of which is that things continue getting worse hifiguy Nov 2015 #34

Yeah, that was Ralph Nader's theory. Hit bottom and then things will get better. pnwmom Nov 2015 #35

Whatever. hifiguy Nov 2015 #38

Because that way the Corporations win regardless. Duh! nt Romulox Nov 2015 #32

Yes Agreed - What Would The World Come To Should - Honesty - Integrity - Sincerity - Prevail cantbeserious Nov 2015 #37

Given the Electoral College hifiguy Nov 2015 #33

I thought you were just going to list some of the candidates on the other side. Vinca Nov 2015 #36