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In reply to the discussion: Can I just say that the endless war in the Middle East is destroying our country? Much like [View all]eridani
(51,907 posts)43. True of just about everything post WW II
Waging Endless War From Vietnam to Syria
http://www.commondreams.org/views/2015/11/09/waging-endless-war-vietnam-syria
Only recently, Barack Obama announced that U.S. troops wouldnt be leaving Afghanistan any time soon and also made a deeper commitment to fighting the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, including deploying the first U.S. ground personnel into that country. Indeed, a new book by New York Times reporter Charlie Savage, Power Wars, suggests that there has been little substantive difference between George W. Bushs administration and Obamas when it comes to national security policies or the legal justifications used to pursue regime change in the Greater Middle East.
Henry Kissinger is, of course, not singularly responsible for the evolution of the U.S. national security state into a monstrosity. That state has had many administrators. But his example -- especially his steadfast support for bombing as an instrument of diplomacy and his militarizationof the Persian Gulf -- has coursed through the decades, shedding a spectral light on the road that has brought us to a state of eternal war.
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During those four-and a half years when the U.S. military dropped more than 6,000,000 tons of bombs on Southeast Asia, Kissinger revealed himself to be not a supreme political realist, but the planets supreme idealist. He refused to quit when it came to a policy meant to bring about a world he believed he ought to live in, one where he could, by the force of the material power of the U.S. military, bend poor peasant countries like Cambodia, Laos, and North Vietnam to his will -- as opposed to the one he did live in, where bomb as he might he couldnt force Hanoi to submit. As he put it at the time, I refuse to believe that a little fourth-rate power like North Vietnam does not have a breaking point.
In fact, that bombing campaign did have one striking effect: it destabilized Cambodia, provoking a 1970 coup that, in turn, provoked a 1970 American invasion, which only broadened the social base of the insurgency growing in the countryside, leading to escalating U.S. bombing runs that spread to nearly the whole country, devastating it and creating the conditions for the rise to power of the genocidal Khmer Rouge.
http://www.commondreams.org/views/2015/11/09/waging-endless-war-vietnam-syria
Only recently, Barack Obama announced that U.S. troops wouldnt be leaving Afghanistan any time soon and also made a deeper commitment to fighting the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, including deploying the first U.S. ground personnel into that country. Indeed, a new book by New York Times reporter Charlie Savage, Power Wars, suggests that there has been little substantive difference between George W. Bushs administration and Obamas when it comes to national security policies or the legal justifications used to pursue regime change in the Greater Middle East.
Henry Kissinger is, of course, not singularly responsible for the evolution of the U.S. national security state into a monstrosity. That state has had many administrators. But his example -- especially his steadfast support for bombing as an instrument of diplomacy and his militarizationof the Persian Gulf -- has coursed through the decades, shedding a spectral light on the road that has brought us to a state of eternal war.
<snip>
During those four-and a half years when the U.S. military dropped more than 6,000,000 tons of bombs on Southeast Asia, Kissinger revealed himself to be not a supreme political realist, but the planets supreme idealist. He refused to quit when it came to a policy meant to bring about a world he believed he ought to live in, one where he could, by the force of the material power of the U.S. military, bend poor peasant countries like Cambodia, Laos, and North Vietnam to his will -- as opposed to the one he did live in, where bomb as he might he couldnt force Hanoi to submit. As he put it at the time, I refuse to believe that a little fourth-rate power like North Vietnam does not have a breaking point.
In fact, that bombing campaign did have one striking effect: it destabilized Cambodia, provoking a 1970 coup that, in turn, provoked a 1970 American invasion, which only broadened the social base of the insurgency growing in the countryside, leading to escalating U.S. bombing runs that spread to nearly the whole country, devastating it and creating the conditions for the rise to power of the genocidal Khmer Rouge.
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Can I just say that the endless war in the Middle East is destroying our country? Much like [View all]
grahamhgreen
Nov 2015
OP
We are the drunk husband beating the wife, insisting only we can fix the marriage.
grahamhgreen
Nov 2015
#5
As soon as the leadership of the government has their own children in the line of fire
erronis
Nov 2015
#13
More the people prosecuting it, and those not resisting it. Then you know who to talk to.
jtuck004
Nov 2015
#7
Not a damn thing. It's the Military-Industrial-Intel profiteers that have us by the short hairs. May
grahamhgreen
Nov 2015
#23
It's pretty rough on the countries in the Mideast that we have been messing with, too. nt
tblue37
Nov 2015
#21
"training and placement for unemployed people provided by Workforce Investment Boards"
grahamhgreen
Nov 2015
#25
The FBI would not attack New Jersey, bomb civilians, and depose the govt.!
grahamhgreen
Nov 2015
#50
K&R. It is time to stop spending money on war and start spending money on
liberal_at_heart
Nov 2015
#37
"What has been done to Iraq for the last 24 years, is a crime with few rivals in history."
cpwm17
Nov 2015
#46
Hence, the U.S. en route to breaking up into 3 - 6 smaller countries by mid-century
villager
Nov 2015
#51
That's a strikingly deceptive and misleading pie chart, to the point of being dishonest.
Donald Ian Rankin
Nov 2015
#52
No, it's not. This is exactly where our tax money goes. Our FICA payments are Insurance,
grahamhgreen
Nov 2015
#53
I've heard 70%.... that leaves precious little for building a great society.
grahamhgreen
Nov 2015
#60
You're right, I should have said "improper military spending, such as that being spent for the
grahamhgreen
Nov 2015
#59