What's the difference between a "liberal" and a "leftist," if there is one...

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37. The Libertarians I know have no regard for how lack of appropriate regulation produces slavery.

Or if they do, it is only to the extent that they are the ones in danger of being "enslaved" and they are not responnsible for how their own "free" behaviors affect others in ways that those others identify as enslaving, but that are not shared with them. They have no regard for how what they claim as free empowerment can be in fact DEPEND upon the weaknesses of others. Their response to that argument, TTE that they are not in fact free, is that the disempowered must be responnsible for themselves, even if they can't actually do that BECAUSE of some manifestation of Libertarian power/oppression. This is how Libertarians have become associated with Social Darwinism.

Liberals call this situation what is, not freedom, but vampirism. As humanists, instead of politicists, they want to conserve freedom for all, not only for its human values, but also for how ALL of those conserved human values enhance/contribute to all systems. They act to prevent the losses that Libertarians, and some Leftists, are telling us are insignificant.