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Octafish

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33. Powell pushed back.

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 06:38 PM

Nov 2015

For war and all it would bring them, Cheney and his BFEE cronies thought it would be OK to toss Valerie Plame and the nation's entire CIA counternuclearproliferation efforts to the wolves.

Cheney told Powell that he was seriously considering the nuclear possibility, but that he wanted to be thorough and was curious about what it would entail. The team Powell assembled concjuded that a large number of small, tactical nuclear weapons would be necessary just to damage a single division. Powell showed the results to Cheney and then destroyed them. When Powell commanded the 5th Corps in Germany in the 1980s, he formed great reservations over the practicality of tactical nuclear weapons. After seeing the results of this study he concluded, "If I had had any doubts before about the practicality of nukes on the field of battle, this report clinched them."

-- Encyclopedia of the Persian Gulf War, Richard Alan Schwartz, p. 111.

https://books.google.com/books?id=CIiACgAAQBAJ&pg=PA111#v=onepage&q&f=false

Music for thinking about that...

...and thanking the cherry red nose of WC Fields himself for being here to think about it.

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then blame daddy for not warning US. GeorgeGist Nov 2015 #49

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