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SickOfTheOnePct

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99. As has been stated ad nauseum

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 06:24 PM

Nov 2015

Threats are not free speech. You may not be able to see the difference between hate speech and threats, but there is indeed a difference. One isn't protected, and one is (except at Mizzou).

He should have been arrested for making threats.

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Mizzou police issue advice for reporting 'hateful and/or hurtful' speech [View all] B2G Nov 2015 OP

cops, left-wing extremists find common cause in embracing authoritarianism nt geek tragedy Nov 2015 #1

I am hurt and offended by your comment. I'm calling the cops now. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2015 #2

Alright...Who fucking called the cops? Iggo Nov 2015 #3

Ridiculous n/t SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #4

This whole thing is crawling up its own ass rather quickly. Throd Nov 2015 #5

No surprise there, none at all. hifiguy Nov 2015 #40

I totally love your comment lol. cwydro Nov 2015 #45

Why are people surprised? Shandris Nov 2015 #6

People of color shouldn't leave their houses if they don't want to be threatened loyalsister Nov 2015 #7

Being threatened is completely different SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #8

Until you hear iy directed at you, I suppose loyalsister Nov 2015 #9

You can't be serious n/t SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #10

If someone was to tell you that you're ugly and you dress funny ... 11 Bravo Nov 2015 #14

Righhht that's the same loyalsister Nov 2015 #15

Fortunately SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #20

I'm a gay woman who never hid who I was. cwydro Nov 2015 #46

Are you receiving hate mail for being involved in these protests? loyalsister Nov 2015 #47

Drama llamas n/t SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #48

I could tell you some stories about things that happened to me if you want. cwydro Nov 2015 #50

Threats are different from slurs and hate speech SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #51

Had you gotten threatening hate mail.... loyalsister Nov 2015 #52

Did you not read what I wrote? cwydro Nov 2015 #53

And I asked loyalsister Nov 2015 #55

Hmm. So if I got a LETTER before the big giant football player showed up in PERSON cwydro Nov 2015 #56

These threats are getting very serious loyalsister Nov 2015 #58

For fuck's sake SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #59

Ya think it's remotely possible that the people doing the threatening loyalsister Nov 2015 #62

Very possibly SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #63

What I really don't like is that my friends are facing real threats loyalsister Nov 2015 #64

Yeah, whatever SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #65

Students are truly scared loyalsister Nov 2015 #54

Well, see. They should be separating the threats from the words kcr Nov 2015 #78

Damn straight loyalsister Nov 2015 #97

Are you fucking serious??? *shaking my head* n/t X_Digger Nov 2015 #109

There are death threats happening *right now*. Recursion Nov 2015 #75

Then why doesn't it say "call if threatened"? SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #76

Because that would be stupid kcr Nov 2015 #79

If that's the case SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #81

Then what is your beef, exactly? kcr Nov 2015 #82

My "beef" SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #83

If this were an incident where only hurtful words were happening, you'd have a point kcr Nov 2015 #84

The email from the campus police SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #86

Okay. But there are threats. kcr Nov 2015 #88

The problem is SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #89

Generally speaking, yes kcr Nov 2015 #90

I support free speech SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #91

Guess what? I do, too. kcr Nov 2015 #92

Have you not read anything I've written? SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #93

Yes, I've read them kcr Nov 2015 #94

Why aren't my family members treated like you describe? Boudica the Lyoness Nov 2015 #42

Your family members who are loyalsister Nov 2015 #49

You cannot comprehend the damage you're doing. Boudica the Lyoness Nov 2015 #73

Sigh hon. cwydro Nov 2015 #57

Wait..... when was the "butthurt exception" to the First Amendment enacted? (nt) Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #11

+ 1 LOL n/t SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #12

I know right? Lol. B2G Nov 2015 #13

"Nine one one, what's your emergency?" pintobean Nov 2015 #18

Having too many cops leads them to do things Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #16

It's interesting how people love to make outher people's pain about their rights loyalsister Nov 2015 #17

would you be comfortable with white people being able to call the police geek tragedy Nov 2015 #19

I would be comfortable if words were recognized as having real effect loyalsister Nov 2015 #23

whatever set of rules get put in place will be used to benefit the dominant class. geek tragedy Nov 2015 #24

Offending someone with words SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #25

The 1st Amendment does not protect a "right" to insult people loyalsister Nov 2015 #29

absolutely people have a right to call a racist a racist nt geek tragedy Nov 2015 #30

Actually it kinda does. Throd Nov 2015 #31

You're right, the First Amendment SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #32

Who is demanding anyone called a racist slur sit there and take it? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2015 #96

The word "hurtful" is rather vague loyalsister Nov 2015 #98

Calling "hurtful" a "rather vague" term hifiguy Nov 2015 #106

Have you ever read a pice of legislation? loyalsister Nov 2015 #110

Yeah, those pesky "rights"! They really ought to sit in the back of the waaaahhhmbulance! WinkyDink Nov 2015 #22

If you say something that makes someone "uncomfortable" or hurt romanic Nov 2015 #27

I don't think you have a clue as to what is happening here loyalsister Nov 2015 #33

And they should be reported to the police for this? n/t SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #34

Deflecting. romanic Nov 2015 #35

Faculty members are flinging the n-word? B2G Nov 2015 #36

First hand account here loyalsister Nov 2015 #44

She cites two examples unrelated to faculty exboyfil Nov 2015 #66

The right to which you refer is articulated by the first amendment. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2015 #103

Good-bye, 1st Amendment. It's been real. WinkyDink Nov 2015 #21

The "left" if it can be defined as that hifiguy Nov 2015 #39

Couldn't agree more n/t SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #41

Please don't call this "the left." Comrade Grumpy Nov 2015 #95

That is why I used the conditional hifiguy Nov 2015 #104

The language of this is too broad romanic Nov 2015 #26

Yep SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #28

If you've ever complained about the overuse of police or the existence of a "police state" Lee-Lee Nov 2015 #37

Revolting on too many levels to even describe. hifiguy Nov 2015 #38

When did police get group host powers? N/T beevul Nov 2015 #43

LOL, people call the police for hurtful speech now? Imajika Nov 2015 #60

Hammer, meet nail head SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #61

The police are the most effective way to document exboyfil Nov 2015 #67

Great points philosslayer Nov 2015 #68

Okay, so I call you a fatty... Imajika Nov 2015 #69

I agree, that was my point exboyfil Nov 2015 #71

It goes FAR beyond a single racial ephithet loyalsister Nov 2015 #102

Well reports on Twitter is that campus security has been beefed up in response to Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #70

That is a terrorist threat exboyfil Nov 2015 #72

And it is already illegal. hifiguy Nov 2015 #107

Black student protestors are receiving death threats and fleeing campus, per Shaun King Recursion Nov 2015 #74

"Death threats" are very different from "hurtful speech" (nt) Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #77

So, when was it just hurtful speech and when did it become something serious enough kcr Nov 2015 #80

Threat of physical harm hifiguy Nov 2015 #108

I am failing to detect a problem here. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2015 #85

Mizzou is a state school. branford Nov 2015 #100

No, the common misperception is that the First Amendment is absolute. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2015 #101

What you see or want is immaterial to the actual law. branford Nov 2015 #105

There has been an arrest kcr Nov 2015 #87

As has been stated ad nauseum SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #99