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Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)
78. and the second worse thing
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 08:26 PM
Nov 2015

they don't learn from their mistakes:

Along with the abandonment of political reform and increasing identification in the mind of the public with Court corruption, the Clinton administration failed to develop economic proposals which would ease the growing economic insecurity that had done much to generate Country antagonisms toward Washington and which needed to be allayed in order to restore public support for activist government. One aspect of this failure in economic policy was the administration’s early decision to sacrifice some of its more populist economic proposals at the alter of deficit reduction. This strategy met with the approval of Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan and the bond market, but despite Clinton advisor James Carville’s comment that if he were reincarnated that he would want to come back as the bond market, since then "you can intimidate everybody," the bond market has little ability to provide the types of tangible and lasting economic benefits necessary to build and sustain a majority coalition for the Democratic party or to allay Country fears that the government is acting in the interest of ordinary citizens (Phillips 1994: 77 and Woodward 1994: 125-126). The focus on deficit reduction also forced the administration to propose a set of regressive energy and gasoline taxes (the latter of which was finally enacted), which promised to further pinch the pocketbooks of ordinary Americans. Moreover, by so quickly and cavalierly jettisoning some of his central campaign promises, Bill Clinton created more doubts about his promise to end "politics as usual" and increased Country cynicism towards his administration.

The Clinton administration also have erred in its staunch support for NAFTA. Not only does the agreement put further downward pressure on U.S. wages, thereby increasing the income inequality at the heart of Country anger at government, but in aggressively pursuing passage of the agreement, the Clinton administration put itself in conflict with organized labor. By attacking one of the Democratic party’s most important constituencies, the administration succeeded in further weakening the Democratic coalition and exacerbating the party’s organizational decline. Also, the time and resources spent by the White House and labor lobbying for and against the agreement would have been better spent on measures of benefit to both groups, such as lobbying for health care reform, an overhaul of campaign finance, or upgrading the organizational capacity of the Democratic party.

Finally, the Clinton administration failed to deliver on the central component of its economic agenda, health care reform. Health care reform represented the type of a broad-based government benefit program that had engendered popular support from activist government in the past and provided the glue which held together the Democratic party since the New Deal. Passage of health care reform would have helped to ameliorate Court and Country divisions by providing evidence that the government can work to resolve complex issues in a way that benefits average Americans. Alas, with the demise of health care reform, the Democrats failed to use the power of government to revitalize their coalition, and in the process furthered the public’s impression that government is incapable of acting in the national interest.

http://academics.hamilton.edu/government/home/2002/faculty/pklinkne/94.htm

Sound familiar? This is great article that explains what happens when they go down this path. We need to go in a different direction or:

By any measure, the elections of 1994 were a significant reverse for the Democratic party; losing fifty-four House seats, eight Senate seats, and majority control of both houses of Congress for the first time in forty-two years is no small achievement.

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yeah, at passing GOP policies because we'd riot if the Pubs did it MisterP Nov 2015 #1
^Right there^ Le Taz Hot Nov 2015 #73
Evening mass starting already? JoePhilly Nov 2015 #2
Mannysplaining emulatorloo Nov 2015 #3
Balderdash Zippyzagnut Nov 2015 #4
Third way will at least toss us the bone, the Republicans throw it away instead of tossing it to us. LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #5
Welcome. 840high Nov 2015 #32
Third Wayers are WORSE DJ13 Nov 2015 #6
Are you really claiming TeddyR Nov 2015 #9
That President Bill Clinton (D) was worse than Presidents Ronald Reagan and Bush Sr.? Really? DJ13 Nov 2015 #15
Ok TeddyR Nov 2015 #18
Heres an article that outlines a few things DJ13 Nov 2015 #34
- crickets - hifiguy Nov 2015 #58
Even the crickets are gone DJ13 Nov 2015 #80
3rd enid602 Nov 2015 #54
4th. hifiguy Nov 2015 #59
This post makes zero sense TeddyR Nov 2015 #7
Amped up hyperbolic attack on 99% of Dems! And now we will both be alerted on, LOL. bettyellen Nov 2015 #8
Third Way and Republicans are like a WWF tag team . Fuddnik Nov 2015 #10
Yes, and the Democrats who do not take this Third-Way nonsense seriously... CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #31
/\_/\_This right here_/\_/\ Scuba Nov 2015 #39
Can't add anything to that CC. hifiguy Nov 2015 #60
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Being a disaster for the 99% does not mean all opponents are bad for the 1%. jeff47 Nov 2015 #11
I thought the US still had welfare TeddyR Nov 2015 #12
Welfare is over. It was replaced with TANF. jeff47 Nov 2015 #13
Cookies are pretty good TeddyR Nov 2015 #16
Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) GeorgeGist Nov 2015 #24
It ended in 1996. jeff47 Nov 2015 #42
Bill Clinton signed a welfare bill introduced by a Florida Republican Art_from_Ark Nov 2015 #17
This! TeddyR Nov 2015 #19
Broad support from the narrow (and greedy) minds of the beltway are no indication of a good idea Hydra Nov 2015 #25
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Ya, I've taken a lot of crap for using that term for what the US does Hydra Nov 2015 #23
Third Wayers are better than most OTHER Republicans Vincardog Nov 2015 #20
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Are they really? Hydra Nov 2015 #26
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Is President Obama a Third Wayer? How about Joe Biden? John Kerry? Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #28
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Obama was 3rd Way on DAY 1 when the Public Option hit the trash can, bvar22 Nov 2015 #46
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You got the correlation correct MannyGoldstein Nov 2015 #50
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It's a pretty interpretive definition. geek tragedy Nov 2015 #63
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Yep. Where's the outcry from 3rd Wayers over Planned Parenthood? Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #82
To quote the late, great Buddy Holly hifiguy Nov 2015 #83
and the second worse thing Mnpaul Nov 2015 #78
Who are these shadowy all powerful Third Wayers that run everything? redstateblues Nov 2015 #30
They used to call themselves the DLC. Fuddnik Nov 2015 #36
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You forgot the rest of that straw-person argument: MannyGoldstein Nov 2015 #49
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I would debase myself for Liz Warren. Utopian Leftist Nov 2015 #66
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I suspect the majority of liberals would welcome a woman President, Utopian Leftist Nov 2015 #74
I am a yellow dog! get the red out Nov 2015 #53
That's like saying smallpox is better than the plague. hobbit709 Nov 2015 #55
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100% correct as usual, Manny. hifiguy Nov 2015 #57
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Third way. JEB Nov 2015 #81
I think third wayers are liars and deceivers are any of them running as conservatives? But their Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #84
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